Been well covered and still pushed by the media
so it is hard for people to let this thing go.
Pushing false Ideas with images and well developed biased stories.
Seems to still work and will always work.
Toss in a few " experts" and military witnesses and edited repeats
of info and blurry images. You got yourself a cult following.
It has been summed up many times.
Just like the secret development of the Tank being referred to as a water tank.
Long range missiles and spy aircraft have often been wound up in
Alien "Saucers" stories.
And as a "water tank" is little more realistic and respectable. Out of this
world ridiculous explanations like Aliens. Seem to work just fine.
Like they say " Must be something in the Water"
Comically laughing at you since that started in 1945
so it is hard for people to let this thing go.
Pushing false Ideas with images and well developed biased stories.
Seems to still work and will always work.
Toss in a few " experts" and military witnesses and edited repeats
of info and blurry images. You got yourself a cult following.
It has been summed up many times.
Just like the secret development of the Tank being referred to as a water tank.
Long range missiles and spy aircraft have often been wound up in
Alien "Saucers" stories.
And as a "water tank" is little more realistic and respectable. Out of this
world ridiculous explanations like Aliens. Seem to work just fine.
Like they say " Must be something in the Water"
Comically laughing at you since that started in 1945
Iodization of the water supply just in case the ruskies drop nukes?
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Unidentified things are not not alien things, as this would mean they have been identified as such.
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Unidentified things are not not alien things, as this would mean they have been identified as such.
Never the russians ans others will nuke USA for two good reasons :
They need the US high school for their children
And the US sky is too much jamed for any missile has a chance to touch the ground first.
They need the US high school for their children
And the US sky is too much jamed for any missile has a chance to touch the ground first.
There is very good analysis at Metabunk forum:
The main US Navy UFO videos forum - https://www.metabunk.org/forums/ufo-videos-and-reports-from-the-us-navy.60/
Explained: The Navy UFO Videos
Gimbal UFO - A New Analysis
Gimbal derotated video, using clouds as the horizon
ATFLIR FOV - Link
We shouldn't be treating these US navy pilots as expert testimony, when you think about it they're just glorified airplane drivers.
Here is a retired US navy pilot with 18years experience trying to explain these videos and making a mess of it:
F-16 Pilot Chris Lehto's Interpretation of the GoFast footage , goto post #44 for a proper explanation by a F/A-18 pilot.
David Grusch, Whistleblower, Claims U.S. Has Retrieved Craft and Bodies of Non-Human Origin
Exactly
That is the key to fantasy propaganda, or straight misconception
Establish some sort of witness that would appear more credible.
Or work in a mix of factual event timelines, then toss in non factual events
along side them. To portray a real false story.
Been done so many times.
And still done everyday on the brain wash media networks.
Convincing people that Aliens exist is a assignment for
a one year psychology major could easily do.
Actually a basic well trained car salesman has enough insight
to understand the concept of human behavior.
Another well known technique is to pass false information to
younger children. No matter what age or higher education
received. They will always believe and argue what they were
told at a young age.
The best ones are inside "Whistle Blowers" or " Non Believers"
which are overwhelmed by evidence and become " Believers"
Key give away is the line " non believer" being excessively repeated
in the documentary. Then again adding in factual events / timelines
then plugging the false information.
Another good Double Bluff, is create false information.
Then create false " de bunking" information to debunk the
original lie.
The original lie as ridiculous as it is, is made even more
believable. Because the false debunking story is even more
ridiculous intentionally. Making people believe the original lie
is actually true, by using more lies portrayed as the truth.
That is the key to fantasy propaganda, or straight misconception
Establish some sort of witness that would appear more credible.
Or work in a mix of factual event timelines, then toss in non factual events
along side them. To portray a real false story.
Been done so many times.
And still done everyday on the brain wash media networks.
Convincing people that Aliens exist is a assignment for
a one year psychology major could easily do.
Actually a basic well trained car salesman has enough insight
to understand the concept of human behavior.
Another well known technique is to pass false information to
younger children. No matter what age or higher education
received. They will always believe and argue what they were
told at a young age.
The best ones are inside "Whistle Blowers" or " Non Believers"
which are overwhelmed by evidence and become " Believers"
Key give away is the line " non believer" being excessively repeated
in the documentary. Then again adding in factual events / timelines
then plugging the false information.
Another good Double Bluff, is create false information.
Then create false " de bunking" information to debunk the
original lie.
The original lie as ridiculous as it is, is made even more
believable. Because the false debunking story is even more
ridiculous intentionally. Making people believe the original lie
is actually true, by using more lies portrayed as the truth.
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Just a comment on your above statement.
Do you really want to give the opinion that, U.S. Navy fighter jet pilots whose skill, and experience in accurately assessing maneuvering, high speed aerial targets, where such skills can be the difference between life and death - and since these are Carrier based pilots, also require the sharp vision, and cool headed judgement to routinely land safely on those Carriers - are just glorified airplane drivers? Are you really certain that you want to stay with that assessment?
If the eyewitness testimonials of these Navy pilots is no expert enough, perhaps you would tell us whose would be?
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I was referring to here: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...-couple-of-years.372428/page-127#post-7376262
As for your suspect statement that you understand epistemology already, then how about you start demonstrating that fact?
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You have this preconceived notion that these pilots have super human like attributes beyond the normal person, they are not infallible they can and do make errors and misjudgements, their observations and decisions for the most part are made via the aircraft targeting system, navigation and avionics displays and as such can be subject to jamming and electronic countermeasures and since most of these encounters are taking place within designated US navy training areas who knows what sort of military equipment testing is taking place during these exercises.
These pilots are not imparting irrefutable testimony, its nothing more than their interpretation of what the aircraft targeting systems are displaying and in some cases the pilots views don't correlate to the operation of these targeting systems or at worst the pilots themselves don't understand the limitations of these targeting arrays and sensors.
Example
"The pilot flying the F-15D at the time, who has not been named, but has now been identified as an instructor."
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/f-15-seen-damaged-in-drainage-canal-after-landing-mishap
Lol, made it in your false demonstration of evidence and then in the same post when I debunked it: this IS an evidence ! Yours (suspect...blah about me) is just two cents dialectic as you fallen to make a valid demonstration in the answer of my comic of evidence and mostly to do not take the rigth word to demonsstrate your thougth since the beginning. I have made high studies of philosophy (and not only) (Sorbonne University France where some prof also teach in your country) and of course you know episto is a part of it (and not the engineer studies where it is a basic introduction said fastly, btw ingineer think too often they are scientists).
WHen you involve the word of Evidence for law juridic things then jump sudenly in the testing as if an evidence was an Experiment of testing a theory, you just was off topic in the understanding of the base of what science is imho ! And all what you think here are facts prove this missconception! I can read it in your speech dispite my poor level of english (and multi sorry for my poor writting, I know you guys make effort to read me and I appreciate it, respect and to you as well, Ken).
I just reminded here the basic of episto and how is made science (an not just saoid at TV). You at the opposit take a phenomene as a prove because you believe : it is repeated (whith what alien protocol) and 2) it is true because press or people with authority said it : you are cleary in the Church Side VS ELIOCENTRISM !
Take it as I understand two things and I demonstrated it to you whether you accept it.
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That's what you speculate that I think, because I've not said that. What I have indicated is that, it's ridiculous of you to suggest that combat jet pilots are little more than piston engine Cessna plots. Of course, they're not infallible, no one said that they were? They are human beings who excel in the talents, skills and discipline necessary to win life-and-death supersonic aerial combat engagement. Their training includes close aerial combat, not simply combat using a fire-control computer, which actually increases the demand for fast and accurate mental management of information.
Just as some of us have the talent and skill to excel as medical doctors, or as electrical engineers, or as artists, for example, when it comes to closely assessing fast, aerially maneuvering objects by eye, the reports of combat jet pilots (some of whom also have earned aeronautical engineering degrees) is more expert than the report of a doctor, or engineer or artist. In fact, I don't know that there is a more expert eyewitness for unidentified aerial target assessment. I've already requested that you name a more expert type of aerial eyewitness, since you've asserted that military combat jet pilots aren't expert enough. Who, exactly, is expert enough?
No one has, in any way, suggested that combat pilot eyewitness testimony is irrefutable. However, when that testimony is combined with matching testimony from multiple other combat pilots, flying in different jets, and on different dates, plus those testimonials also corroborate what was captured by IR-imaging sensors, it definitely raises the likelihood that the bizarre objects in question do exist. What it does not do, however, is speak to is the origin of those objects. My objection in the thread has been to closed-minded denial that any evidence exists, not to the denial that said evidence constitutes proof. A A denial, with which I agree.
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I give up too at waiting any evidence of logic from you 🙂. Hope you just keep the word colossus with clay feet in mind about all that UFO noise without solid prove as a base of serious discussion and demonstration. A fact is of course not an evidence. You mix necessary with contingence. Two explicit words in epistimology...