Your statement is correct but experience has taught me that capturing & editing photos using color calibrated equipment will yield closer to natural colors especially if it will later on be viewed on newer screens ie apple retina or samsung amoled. In fact im viewing my post right now on a samsung s5 phone & the color is very close to what I see on my calibrated imac screen.
Thank you for nice detailed photos.
But there is a catch. All measures taken during taking photos want do much good if watcher doesn't have calibrated monitor
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a3cervo,
Your pics (on my MacBook Pro screen) are much closer to white than the real cones blue paper.
Here is a recent pic i've taken (purpose of picture to show a "black" coned A7p (the standard cones do have a transparent pre-treat on them)
The blue on my MacBook screen is a bit lighter than reality too.
dave
Your pics (on my MacBook Pro screen) are much closer to white than the real cones blue paper.
Here is a recent pic i've taken (purpose of picture to show a "black" coned A7p (the standard cones do have a transparent pre-treat on them)
The blue on my MacBook screen is a bit lighter than reality too.
dave
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I think the Alpair 7P is close to this..
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=teal+blue&biw=1524&bih=718&tbm=isch&imgil=qTbaw5taR62uAM%253A%253BkapnojhN8mc9IM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fcolors.findthebest.com%25252Fl%25252F422%25252FTeal-Blue&source=iu&pf=m&fir=qTbaw5taR62uAM%253A%252CkapnojhN8mc9IM%252C_&usg=__HNoeymgkFmMSUvbgZRF0KpeQ0_I%3D&ved=0CCwQyjc&ei=_GJfVNmBINKT7QbXroG4Cw#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=qTbaw5taR62uAM%253A%3BkapnojhN8mc9IM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimg1.findthebest.com%252Fsites%252Fdefault%252Ffiles%252F2307%252Fmedia%252Fimages%252FTeal_Blue_429716_i0.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fcolors.findthebest.com%252Fl%252F422%252FTeal-Blue%3B800%3B800
I looking again with different light and it looks almost light grey..
Regards
M. Gregg
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=teal+blue&biw=1524&bih=718&tbm=isch&imgil=qTbaw5taR62uAM%253A%253BkapnojhN8mc9IM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fcolors.findthebest.com%25252Fl%25252F422%25252FTeal-Blue&source=iu&pf=m&fir=qTbaw5taR62uAM%253A%252CkapnojhN8mc9IM%252C_&usg=__HNoeymgkFmMSUvbgZRF0KpeQ0_I%3D&ved=0CCwQyjc&ei=_GJfVNmBINKT7QbXroG4Cw#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=qTbaw5taR62uAM%253A%3BkapnojhN8mc9IM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimg1.findthebest.com%252Fsites%252Fdefault%252Ffiles%252F2307%252Fmedia%252Fimages%252FTeal_Blue_429716_i0.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fcolors.findthebest.com%252Fl%252F422%252FTeal-Blue%3B800%3B800
I looking again with different light and it looks almost light grey..
Regards
M. Gregg
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Dave,
Yes, closer to white or even grey...exactly my point when I said that the color shade of the 10Ps depend on the lighting conditions. Those pics were shot with two 600watts studio power strobes as light source, rear @ 1/4 power & front 1/2 power. Used a grey card for correcting white balance on post processing.
Btw, love the black coned A7p
Yes, closer to white or even grey...exactly my point when I said that the color shade of the 10Ps depend on the lighting conditions. Those pics were shot with two 600watts studio power strobes as light source, rear @ 1/4 power & front 1/2 power. Used a grey card for correcting white balance on post processing.
Btw, love the black coned A7p
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re: test cabinets, I wasn't thinking of raw drivers, but perhaps a small bookshelf design, (reduce transport costs) I guess it would be hard to compare if you wanted a large pensil design or rear horn, But having a small bookshelf, that you weren't allowed to take out of the cabinets, would allow you to get a flavour of the drivers.
ps: If I was a wood, to be turned and sit atop a pair of 12PW's a little like these Zingalli's
What would closest match the blue/paper/teal or perhaps best contrast it? Maple, ash, sycamore?
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
What would closest match the blue/paper/teal or perhaps best contrast it? Maple, ash, sycamore?
Btw, love the black coned A7p
I have 4 A12pw the same colour being done up for use with thee in our 2nd crack at an MTM ML-TL.
dave
On the colour of theMA papercone drivers.... onmy screen the blue in these pics is really close to what i see with a driver in hand.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/planet-10-hifi/255966-trapezoid-build-guide-2.html#post4108227
dave
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/planet-10-hifi/255966-trapezoid-build-guide-2.html#post4108227
dave
I have great respect towards yours work and for you as a person, so don't get me wrong here...
Only you, and person(s) sitting next to you, can tell what is it that you really see
For others really means not much.
The best, one can do in a situation such as this, is to go outside, around noon, take driver with you in one hand, with Pantone sheets in the other and tell us the color code from sheet which is the best match
With much respect, good to know, but...
2700k is quite yellowish hue and CFLs are generally having bad CRI (color rendering index).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_rendering_index
Halogen light is much better for that purpose.
Alpair 10p From my iPhone
Alpine white solid surface behind it and the only colour chart I could find, for chalk paint.
Its definitely in my eyes a mottled blue pale on the edge of duck egg, and perhaps slightly more blue than the picture dictates. Not quite "Louis Blue' and not quite "Paris Grey"
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Alpine white solid surface behind it and the only colour chart I could find, for chalk paint.
Its definitely in my eyes a mottled blue pale on the edge of duck egg, and perhaps slightly more blue than the picture dictates. Not quite "Louis Blue' and not quite "Paris Grey"
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All true, but my room is lit by 2700k CFL's. The color of the cones is always going to be what 2700k CFL's render. If I used 5400k bulbs, the color would be different. The point is just as the drivers will sound different under different conditions, the color of the cone will depend on the light source. If you light your room with halogen bulbs, the rendered color might well be more blue.
Bob
@Studio Au, on my calibrated iMac screen, the left side is closer to "Louis Blue" while the right side is closer to "Paris Grey". From what I see; light source coming from the right side of the pic is stronger, shadow cast to the left side of the dust cap and lower left of the basket as evidence. And the right side of the cone receives less light as it slides deeper, thus the darker shade of color and adding a bit more contrast.
This is what I'm talking about when I say the paper cone's shade depends on the amount & quality of light falling to it.
This is what I'm talking about when I say the paper cone's shade depends on the amount & quality of light falling to it.
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