Two way naive “crossover” question


Thanks for that. You wouldn't like to draw the circuit would you? 😉

Stock resistor is a 3 Ohm, 1% as seen in the center here.

If that resistor is definitely in series with your tweeter, which I think is a nominally 8 ohm unit, then it's giving around 3 dB of attenuation.

If you were to stick with a single resistor attenuator then you'd have to up the value to 8 ohm for around 6 dB of attenuation.

Can I put another in parallel to the original like you would bypassing a capacitor to add value?

No, as that would decrease the resistance value. Resistors must be in series to add up in value, not parallel.

P.S. An L pad would be preferable as it won't upset the crossover frequency (R1 = 3.9 ohm and R2 = 10 ohm would attenuate an 8 ohm tweeter by 6 dB).
 
I've found this photo of a Klipsch KG2 crossover. A single resistor is seen here.

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(The other resistor might also be a capacitor)

To help decide, there's what looks like a second resistor on yomav's board, but there's only one on the photo of the board I found.

Can you give an input as to how to provide tweeter attenuation in the above circuit - adding an L pad would be feasible?

I think the tweeter is 8 ohm nominal, at least that's what it says on replacement coil/diaphragms for the KG2 tweeter. However the system impedance is stated as 4 ohm.

P.S. Thanks for the schematic.
 
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@CPTX

Your tweeter is more sensitive (92 dB) than the woofer (87 dB) so will require an L pad attenuator as shown in the post #18.

For 5 dB of attenuation with your 8 ohm tweeter, R1 = 3.3 ohm and R2 = 10 ohm. The power rating of each should be at least 10 W

Thank you…so I just wire connect R2 (10 Ohm) from the + to the - terminal of the tweeter…and have R1 (3.3 Ohm) wired in front of the positive terminal of the tweeter.

Purchased.

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…and I stopped by the lumbar yard on the way home.

Update: I just got busted looking for terminals connectors and speaker wire. “Are you building another speaker!!?”

Will see how long I can get away with “just preparing to make some modifications…”
 
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It's just that it has been suggested that a slightly higher crossover frequency (say 1.0 to 1.5 kHz) would beneficially reduce the share of the system power that the planar mid/tweeter has to handle.

However, provided you are not in the habit of constantly playing your music at stadium levels, 800 Hz should be OK.

You certainly should not turn the amplifier all the way up in order to see how loud the speakers will go! :yikes:
 
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The physical offset between the two drivers (how close is each one to you) will also be a factor. If you can build your speaker with flexibility to move the planar back and forth that might help you find success.

I've heard with those planars, don't solder wires to the terminals. The heat will conduct up the leads and melt the membrane. Home Depot or Amazon will sell you quick connects that should fit, you might find a cheap kit with a crimper and variety pack of connectors. IDK the tab size off-hand...
 
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@yomav @AllenB

I've found the crossover schematic for the Klipsch KG2:

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You may attenuate the tweeter by adding a resistor in series with the negative terminal of the tweeter (following the 8 uF capacitor).

Try a 3.3 ohm (5 W or 10 W) resistor first, increasing the value if necessary.

EDIT: I should clarify that yomav is using the Klipsch KG2 crossover in conjunction with an Infinity QA driver and a Heil tweeter.
 
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Hi yomav! Clicking on your photo simply takes me to an Audiokarma log in page.

Please cut and paste, or attach, the photo directly to this thread so we can easily study its layout.

Attenuating the tweeter may be done with a series/parallel combination of fixed resistors called an L pad.

Below is an example of an L pad placed between the treble crossover components and the tweeter.

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R1 is in series with the tweeter and R2 is in parallel with it.

In order to calculate the required resistor values to suit the degree of attenuation alternatives required we need to know the nominal impedance of your tweeter.
thank you so much for your suggestion
 
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Thanks @yomav.

I suggested a simple solution involving a single series resistor in post # 37, but a better solution is to use an L pad in front of the tweeter.

If your Heil tweeter is 4 ohm, then R1 = 1.8 ohm and R2 = 4.7 ohm would attenuate it by around 5 dB. Use resistors of minimum rating 10 W.

Come back if you require an alternative calculation.