I don't care for the electrical specs of the tweeter, the specsheets seldom mention how they were established (usually @ or above 5kHz). When crossing at a rather low frequency you must regard the Xmax of the tweeter.Note that ....
jonathan
So at 1 kHz the effective Pmax will be dramatically lower than the sheet wants you to believe...
How I know? Experience... tried it myself with an Dynaudio Esotar crossed at 1 kHz/12 db ... changed it rapidly to 1.5 kHz/18db .. that worked.
Greetz,
Edwin
I don't care for the electrical specs of the tweeter, the specsheets seldom mention how they were established (usually @ or above 5kHz). When crossing at a rather low frequency you must regard the Xmax of the tweeter.
I agree with you about the Xmax, but not about ignoring the electrical specs or the rest of the data sheet. You have to consider everything.
For example, I'm cooking on a couple of designs with the Wavecor tweeters.
Without a waveguide, and with listening levels in the upper 90s, the TW030WA13 is showing no signs of measured or audible distress with a 1kHz acoustic 4th-order crossover (slope gets steeper as the frequency gets farther away from the nominal crossover point).
regards, jonathan
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Anyone think that the SEAS T35C002 could be crossed at 1 kHz? Specs indicate that they were established with a 2.5 kHz, 12 dB per octave crossover.
I don't agree... At low frequencies Xmax is the limiting factor and at higher frequencies the electrical specs.. When your Xmax is .3 or .5 of a millimeter (common for dome-tweeters) you will never be able to apply 100 Watts electrical without damaging the unit. Also, at higher power and low frequencies, you are operating beyond the linear area -> distortion.I agree with you about the Xmax, but not about ignoring the the electrical specs or the rest of the data sheet. You have to consider everything.
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regards, jonathan
Crossing dome-tweeters too low is a bad design choise. And 1kHz is way too low.
Greetz,
edwin
I agree with you about the Xmax, but not about ignoring the the electrical specs or the rest of the data sheet. You have to consider everything.
For example, I'm cooking on a couple of designs with the Wavecor tweeters.
Without a waveguide, and with listening levels in the upper 90s, the TW030WA13 is showing no signs of measured or audible distress with a 1kHz acoustic 4th-order crossover (slope gets steeper as the frequency gets farther away from the nominal crossover point).
regards, jonathan
Tweeter power handling in spec sheets is bandwidth limited noise stimulus based anyway and should be taken with a grain of salt. In the real world tweeters can handle 1-15 watts of real power.
Where low xover points are concerned mechanical limits are the main issue by far.
What is your opinion on SB 26-series tweeters ?(SB Acoustics :: SB26ST-C000-5)
Listed p-p travel of 1.2 mm
Listed p-p travel of 1.2 mm
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