Hi,
I'm building a rack to place my TT on. Generally it's a wood made stand with 4 feet filled with stand, and a shelf on top of them (simple, huh?). However, on the shelf on I will place 4 ceraballs (from Finite Element) which I already have and then on top of that a platform for placing the TT on.
For this platform, I've been working on designing a Symposium clone (like their super plus platform: http://www.symposiumusa.com/platforms.html). The general idea is a layer of rigid, closed cell foam in the middle, an then going outwards several layers of materials, the outermost being aluminum. The idea is each layer is not to far in terms of acoustical impedance from the adjacent layer, so that vibrations flow easily from the outer layers (the top on which the TT stand and the bottom that faces vibrations from the ground) inwards to the lossy foam layer, where they should dissipate.
What worries me is that although the foam is non-resilient, it still has some compliance to it, and I'm afraid it will "kill" the sound.
So before I make any stupid steps - does anyone have experience with placing such a platform under a turntable? Maybe better ideas?
Thanks much,
-T
I'm building a rack to place my TT on. Generally it's a wood made stand with 4 feet filled with stand, and a shelf on top of them (simple, huh?). However, on the shelf on I will place 4 ceraballs (from Finite Element) which I already have and then on top of that a platform for placing the TT on.
For this platform, I've been working on designing a Symposium clone (like their super plus platform: http://www.symposiumusa.com/platforms.html). The general idea is a layer of rigid, closed cell foam in the middle, an then going outwards several layers of materials, the outermost being aluminum. The idea is each layer is not to far in terms of acoustical impedance from the adjacent layer, so that vibrations flow easily from the outer layers (the top on which the TT stand and the bottom that faces vibrations from the ground) inwards to the lossy foam layer, where they should dissipate.
What worries me is that although the foam is non-resilient, it still has some compliance to it, and I'm afraid it will "kill" the sound.
So before I make any stupid steps - does anyone have experience with placing such a platform under a turntable? Maybe better ideas?
Thanks much,
-T
looks pretty cool huh..
i've been mucking around with plinth resonance lately and i've learnt my lesson that the traditional concept of dead is good doesnt always apply.
i had to seperate my mdf layers with rubber and double sided tape to get any life out of my table.
i think it might be a good idea to try diying the symposium system. i would like to try it, maybe with neoprene or something common because i cant really find closed cell foam over here.
i've been mucking around with plinth resonance lately and i've learnt my lesson that the traditional concept of dead is good doesnt always apply.
i had to seperate my mdf layers with rubber and double sided tape to get any life out of my table.
i think it might be a good idea to try diying the symposium system. i would like to try it, maybe with neoprene or something common because i cant really find closed cell foam over here.
Thanks Sreten, you're right!
The floor is pretty stable concrete. Jumping near my old Kenwood kd600 placed on a light weight Finite Element Spider rack hardly causes mistracking.
The intended TT is an Amazon Model 1. It's not a suspended design, but it is a dual plinth "sandwitch" design constructed of 2 acrylic plates with 8 sorbothane pucks between them, so it also isn't 100% mass damping as well.
Platter weight is 5kg and total table (including seperate motor unit is 25kg.
Cheers
-T
The floor is pretty stable concrete. Jumping near my old Kenwood kd600 placed on a light weight Finite Element Spider rack hardly causes mistracking.
The intended TT is an Amazon Model 1. It's not a suspended design, but it is a dual plinth "sandwitch" design constructed of 2 acrylic plates with 8 sorbothane pucks between them, so it also isn't 100% mass damping as well.
Platter weight is 5kg and total table (including seperate motor unit is 25kg.
Cheers
-T
Hi,
FWIW I'd go for a massive virtual earth slab mounted on squash balls.
I wouldn't go a for a lightwweight slab rigidly mounted unless the table
in question had a full sprung suspension.
🙂/sreten.
FWIW I'd go for a massive virtual earth slab mounted on squash balls.
I wouldn't go a for a lightwweight slab rigidly mounted unless the table
in question had a full sprung suspension.
🙂/sreten.
So, Sreten would you say that in my design the inner foam layer would act the same as your squash balls, and if I make the outer layers massive and heavy, it would have the overall same effect?
Cheers
-T
Tee-Rex said:
So, Sreten would you say that in my design the inner foam layer
would act the same as your squash balls, and if I make the outer
layers massive and heavy, it would have the overall same effect?
Cheers
-T
Hi,
I would not say that. I've looked at the design of your turntable and
what I'd use is a massive solid slab (e.g. slate) on 6 squash balls.
🙂/sreten.
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