I recently got me a nice and cheap turntable, the Pioneer PL-12D II made in 1976 😉
Its an oldy, and not one of the best, but until I save up enough $$$ to buy a nice Thorens, he will suffice.
Except for one thing, Im missing out on alot of bass. Is there a way to get more bass out of a turntable ? (for a reasonably low price 😉)
It's hooked up to a Marantz PM66SE amp btw, and I have no idea what kind of element is on there, it has no name on it.
Its an oldy, and not one of the best, but until I save up enough $$$ to buy a nice Thorens, he will suffice.
Except for one thing, Im missing out on alot of bass. Is there a way to get more bass out of a turntable ? (for a reasonably low price 😉)
It's hooked up to a Marantz PM66SE amp btw, and I have no idea what kind of element is on there, it has no name on it.
hi TDLofCC,
are you sure you are using right input?
is you amp having dedicated "phono" input?
just checking, i do not know your skills, but some people assume it can be plugged anywhere
there is absolutely no reason why even cheap turntable should not have reasonably decent bass
besides wrong input, there might be other causes, bad cartridge, poor contact, impedance mismatch...you name it
ed
are you sure you are using right input?
is you amp having dedicated "phono" input?
just checking, i do not know your skills, but some people assume it can be plugged anywhere
there is absolutely no reason why even cheap turntable should not have reasonably decent bass
besides wrong input, there might be other causes, bad cartridge, poor contact, impedance mismatch...you name it
ed
True true ... but I do have a little skill in this 😛
Its hooked up to the phono input.
But I do think I have not set up the turntable properly.
How do I setup the weight, and the anti skating ?
And how much is there to gain with a new mat ?
(because I'm using the standard rubber mat that came with the turntable)
Its hooked up to the phono input.
But I do think I have not set up the turntable properly.
How do I setup the weight, and the anti skating ?
And how much is there to gain with a new mat ?
(because I'm using the standard rubber mat that came with the turntable)
Don't waste any money on a mat. Save the money for your next deck.
Back in the days when people used turntables, most people could not set up the anti-skating mechanism. It was all over the place. I have hated it ever since.
You need a scale. If the tracking-force is 1.5g, for example, you should set the anti-skating device on "1.5." At least that should put you in the safe.
Back in the days when people used turntables, most people could not set up the anti-skating mechanism. It was all over the place. I have hated it ever since.
You need a scale. If the tracking-force is 1.5g, for example, you should set the anti-skating device on "1.5." At least that should put you in the safe.
This may help?
http://www.vinylengine.com/library_model.php?make=Pioneer&selected_model=PL-12D
Platter-mat is a small tweak, as a cable-tweak...
Pick-up/stylus give bigger gain/difference, then a separate riaa-stage...
Arne K
http://www.vinylengine.com/library_model.php?make=Pioneer&selected_model=PL-12D
Platter-mat is a small tweak, as a cable-tweak...
Pick-up/stylus give bigger gain/difference, then a separate riaa-stage...
Arne K
TDLofCC,
Setting up tracking force and anti-skate...
First make sure your anti-skate is set to zero so it has no effect. Then turn your counter weight back until your arm with cartridge mounted floats. You want to eventually tweak it so that the arm floats where the stylus is only 1mm. or so above the record sitting on the platter. Once doing that set the arm in its lock position. ZERO the scale without turning the whole weight and then turn the weight to the recommended tracking force range of your cartridge. It is better to be closer to the maximum range, ie: if the manufacturer says tracking force range of say 1.00- 1.75 grams go to the 1.75 grams or there abouts. Slightly higher tracking force will allow the cartridge to track better without mistracking and mistacking is not what you want as it can both damage a record and if really bad maybe the cartridge's cantilever. Once you have tracking force set, adjust your anti-skate to an equal or close there of number to the tracking force .
Setting up tracking force and anti-skate...
First make sure your anti-skate is set to zero so it has no effect. Then turn your counter weight back until your arm with cartridge mounted floats. You want to eventually tweak it so that the arm floats where the stylus is only 1mm. or so above the record sitting on the platter. Once doing that set the arm in its lock position. ZERO the scale without turning the whole weight and then turn the weight to the recommended tracking force range of your cartridge. It is better to be closer to the maximum range, ie: if the manufacturer says tracking force range of say 1.00- 1.75 grams go to the 1.75 grams or there abouts. Slightly higher tracking force will allow the cartridge to track better without mistracking and mistacking is not what you want as it can both damage a record and if really bad maybe the cartridge's cantilever. Once you have tracking force set, adjust your anti-skate to an equal or close there of number to the tracking force .
TDLof CC.
You ask about bass. Did you mount the cartridge onto the tonearm? You may have the wires set on the 4 leads so that it is out of phase and if your cartridge is out of phase in wiring you will lose the bass and you may notice a loss of a clear centre-imaging when playing a record. Please make sure the leads are attached to the correct arm wires. Usually the cartridge has matching or close to such coloured by each lead pin or clearly marked which is + and which is - . You then have to align these up to the proper wires on your tone arm.
You ask about bass. Did you mount the cartridge onto the tonearm? You may have the wires set on the 4 leads so that it is out of phase and if your cartridge is out of phase in wiring you will lose the bass and you may notice a loss of a clear centre-imaging when playing a record. Please make sure the leads are attached to the correct arm wires. Usually the cartridge has matching or close to such coloured by each lead pin or clearly marked which is + and which is - . You then have to align these up to the proper wires on your tone arm.
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