Maybe it is just me, but that request is just too cryptic to make any sense of. What is the question?
Yes cryptic but my home built Poddwatt EL84 PP amp, with 5 watts class A output per channel, works well with my Mark Audio A11ms bookshelf speakers.
https://markaudio-sota.myshopify.com/products/tozzi-twoAny Mark Audio in Bookself for tube amp amplifier whith 3 watt in 20 m2?
Thanks.
Seems the title is asking about tube amp for MA speakers and the first post is asking about MA for tube amps.
Adason, Tozzi is not a good enclosure. The CHN-50 in it is a bargain.
Almost any MA driver can be used with your amplifier, but do not expect to be able to play loudly without clipping.
I have, moe than once, found myself using 3-5w amps for considerable stretches on a range of MA boxes, in my 50m2 listening space.
dave
dave
Almost any MA driver can be used with your amplifier, but do not expect to be able to play loudly without clipping.
I have, moe than once, found myself using 3-5w amps for considerable stretches on a range of MA boxes, in my 50m2 listening space.
dave
dave
Lo siento por mi ingles. Quiero saber que Mark Audio puede ser ideal para un amplificador tipo 2 a 3 o el84 con aprox. 3 vatios en mi habitacion de 20 m2.
Tozzi 2 es muy bonito pero muy pequeño y no quiero poner un subwoofer.
¿Alpair 10H quizás?
Tozzi 2 es muy bonito pero muy pequeño y no quiero poner un subwoofer.
¿Alpair 10H quizás?
Hello.
I'm sorry. I have not been very clear.
What i would like to know is the answer to my ask.
I want Mark Audio Drivers that Will sound good whit a 3 watt amp in my 20 m2 living room.
The cabinet should be a shelf (WAF factor) so in addition to the model, i would be interesado in knowing what type of cabinet could sut me better, prioritzing that the smaller the better.
Thanks for the interest.
Tozzi 2 is very pretty but very little and i d'ont want put subwoofer.
I like Mark Audio 10,11,12.
I'm sorry. I have not been very clear.
What i would like to know is the answer to my ask.
I want Mark Audio Drivers that Will sound good whit a 3 watt amp in my 20 m2 living room.
The cabinet should be a shelf (WAF factor) so in addition to the model, i would be interesado in knowing what type of cabinet could sut me better, prioritzing that the smaller the better.
Thanks for the interest.
Tozzi 2 is very pretty but very little and i d'ont want put subwoofer.
I like Mark Audio 10,11,12.
Lo siento por mi ingles. Quiero saber que Mark Audio puede ser ideal para un amplificador tipo 2 a 3 o el84 con aprox. 3 vatios en mi habitacion de 20 m2.
Tozzi 2 es muy bonito pero muy pequeño y no quiero poner un subwoofer.
¿Alpair 10H quizás?

Please post in English.
I'm sorry for my English. I want to know that Mark Audio can be ideal for an amplifier type 2 to 3 or el84 with approx. 3 watts in my room of 20 m2.
Tozzi 2 is very nice but very small and I don't want to put a subwoofer.
Alpair 10H perhaps?
Alpair 10p would be my choice. Only teh A12p is more sensitive, but not by much, and the 10p does better top, more detail thru the mids and more potential for bass than the A12p.
13-18 litre reflex. Like this: https://frugal-phile.com/boxlib/P10free/fatCGR-MK10p-0v92-280418.pdf
dave
13-18 litre reflex. Like this: https://frugal-phile.com/boxlib/P10free/fatCGR-MK10p-0v92-280418.pdf
dave
It would be helpful to know more about your amplifier.
Single Ended DHT?
Push Pull?
More details, please.
Example:
A Pentode amplifier without any negative feedback (some such amplifiers have a rising amplitude at high frequencies, due to the high plate impedance, rp, that tends to overcome an output transformer's primary to secondary leakage inductive reactance.
As the leakage reactance value increases at high frequencies, the primary impedance goes up, resulting in less high frequency output from the secondary. But that drives the primary impedance up (if there is not too much distributed capacitance in the primary), and the pentode's plate high impedance acts like a current source and applies more voltage to the primary. That increased voltage in the primary causes a rising amplitude at high frequencies.
This is an extreme example, yes, but imagine that amplifier on a Mark Audio speaker that has a rising high frequency response.
Harsh? Tizzy? I would think so.
Your amplifier specifications are too vague.
What is the frequency response into an 8 Ohm load?
What is the damping factor?
3 Watts at what percent distortion? 2nd Harm; 3rd Harm; 2nd Intermod; 3rd Intermod.
Those distortions can also cause the frequency response to sound Harsh, Tizzy, etc.
The amplifier specifications have an influence on the sound, including the effect of the speaker impedance varying across the audio frequency range:
The typical impedance of a full range driver at 20Hz is the same as DCR, then the impedance rises to a peak (or with ported, 2 peaks), than decreases at high bass / low midrange, and then increases at high frequencies as the voice coil inductance 'takes over'.
And then, there are the cabinet issues too.
Oh, there are individual tastes that are not the same when 2 people use the same words to describe the sound they like.
Single Ended DHT?
Push Pull?
More details, please.
Example:
A Pentode amplifier without any negative feedback (some such amplifiers have a rising amplitude at high frequencies, due to the high plate impedance, rp, that tends to overcome an output transformer's primary to secondary leakage inductive reactance.
As the leakage reactance value increases at high frequencies, the primary impedance goes up, resulting in less high frequency output from the secondary. But that drives the primary impedance up (if there is not too much distributed capacitance in the primary), and the pentode's plate high impedance acts like a current source and applies more voltage to the primary. That increased voltage in the primary causes a rising amplitude at high frequencies.
This is an extreme example, yes, but imagine that amplifier on a Mark Audio speaker that has a rising high frequency response.
Harsh? Tizzy? I would think so.
Your amplifier specifications are too vague.
What is the frequency response into an 8 Ohm load?
What is the damping factor?
3 Watts at what percent distortion? 2nd Harm; 3rd Harm; 2nd Intermod; 3rd Intermod.
Those distortions can also cause the frequency response to sound Harsh, Tizzy, etc.
The amplifier specifications have an influence on the sound, including the effect of the speaker impedance varying across the audio frequency range:
The typical impedance of a full range driver at 20Hz is the same as DCR, then the impedance rises to a peak (or with ported, 2 peaks), than decreases at high bass / low midrange, and then increases at high frequencies as the voice coil inductance 'takes over'.
And then, there are the cabinet issues too.
Oh, there are individual tastes that are not the same when 2 people use the same words to describe the sound they like.
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Planet 10, thanks for your answer. I think it is very accurate. I wanted Alpair 12 because of the high sensitivity but 10 is qué close and for 20 m2 i think it would be more than enuugh.
The cabinet coul be a good choice but sadlyitwin't make the WAF cut.
The cabinet coul be a good choice but sadlyitwin't make the WAF cut.
6A3sUMMER, i'm sorry to be so short on ibformation
I Will try to explain.
My curren amp is a Boyu A50 300B that puts out 7, 8 watts per Chanel but i'm gig o buy an el84 that Will put out 3 watts per Chanel and maybe have an Opera Consonance 2to3 that is why i wanted to have the greatest posible sensitivity.
I am interese in Decware 84ufo SE, but due to transporte and customs pvp i think i Will get a national one whose características. I do not know.. Due to My limitatins in both pvp, space and aesthetics, what i am looking for is a set hat sounds "good' whitout great pretensiones but in the best ossible whitin those limitatins i listen to soft música, jazz, vocales classical...at a low volumen and from what i think i'm more of a médium.
Any opinión Will be welcome.
I Will try to explain.
My curren amp is a Boyu A50 300B that puts out 7, 8 watts per Chanel but i'm gig o buy an el84 that Will put out 3 watts per Chanel and maybe have an Opera Consonance 2to3 that is why i wanted to have the greatest posible sensitivity.
I am interese in Decware 84ufo SE, but due to transporte and customs pvp i think i Will get a national one whose características. I do not know.. Due to My limitatins in both pvp, space and aesthetics, what i am looking for is a set hat sounds "good' whitout great pretensiones but in the best ossible whitin those limitatins i listen to soft música, jazz, vocales classical...at a low volumen and from what i think i'm more of a médium.
Any opinión Will be welcome.
The cabinet coul be a good choice but sadlyitwin't make the WAF cut.
Just one of many examples. What kind of shape are you looking for?
dave
Hello. As they Will go near the wall, i think whit a front reflex (close área i don't know what's UP)
I have seen some modelos on the Mark Audio Page that May be useulf.
Thanks.
I have seen some modelos on the Mark Audio Page that May be useulf.
Thanks.
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