Transformer shielding

[shadow]

There is some words said about this theme,but nothing to start building from.
I'm looking for cheaper method to shield toroid,like steel(good for shielding)and copper(shielding unknown for me)
So what do you think about steel and copper composite.steel(1.5mm)and copper 0.7mm or more.I have something on my mind and i keep you informed.All very experimental,but who knows.

Any theoretical stuff,or DIY projects are very welcome.

 

[peranders]

Magnetic sheild

May I ask WHY you want to sheild a toroid tranformer? Toroids are known to have very little magnetic field, one a the big advantages! But the guy swedish Mats Bladelius (Advantage, S.A.T don't have the URL's) have toroids with a magnetic shield, see article at ELFA.

http://www.elfa.se/elfa/produkter/se/20/2020471.htm

Text only in swedish, sorry..

 

[Jocko Homo]

Your toroid would benefit more from an electrostaic shield between the windings.

And no DC on the AC mains.

Jocko

 

[shadow]

I know all about low magnetic field,but some people still practise shielding.
I am one of those who dont ask how much improvement,but DIY pleasure is always there

Dont know if is realy worth ...

 

[peranders]

shadow, if you still want to shield the toroid you should have soft iron as material but I think regular iron will do. See the picture of the audio transformer above. This transformer has a ring of soft iron around the toroid ring.

 

[Petter]

Magnetic shielding for toroids is typically some core material wrapped around the circumference of the toroid. This is very effective.

As for CU shielding, you really only need extremely thin layers of conductive material to effectively set up a shield. However, if you have several such layers with a distance between them, you are much better off. You often see plastic cases where conductive paint has been applied internally and externally for this very purpose.

I would recommend that you use the core material method above and set up your toroid so that you can turn it for minimum effect on circuitry.

If you are still worried, set up the transformer in a dedicated box some distance away, and use TI Shield or equivalent hi-tech material for shielding at the consumer. You can get TI Shield from Michael Percy.

Petter

 

[jackinnj]

Cu shielding

I have a piece of instrumentation which uses copper film laminated between two sheets of mylar for shielding. The copper film has a lead which is attached to the central ground point. If you can find the copper film, you could easily laminate it between two sheets of clear avery adhesive film. (btw, I have found the avery clear sheets to be excellent for making PCB masks, although a little expensive.)

 

[shadow]

So how thick is this copper film?
I know work on 0.7mm plate.I use double layer with no mylar.
But why use mylar?

 

[Petter]

Why use mylar?

Because you need to have isolation between them, otherwise it is just a thicker piece of metal. You can and should connect them, but use only 1 connection point for entire "wrap".

Petter

 

[peranders]

Re: Cu shielding

(btw, I have found the avery clear sheets to be excellent for making PCB masks, although a little expensive.)

Belive it or not ordinary tape works fine! Transparent, brown, anything in plastic!

 

[Matt MacBeth]

shielding

A car audio manufacturer that I previously worked for used copper shields around all toroid transformers. Not a noticable audio difference, but helped in the numbers games for low THD and such.

Matt

 

[hifi]

kill a metalfoil inductor and use that to wind around the transformer core, btw you get polyprobylene insulator as a bonus

/micke