gapped toroid? wheres the gap?
After the tape is wound, the impregnated core is cut across the diameter. Of course the hard part is setting the gap correctly BEFORE the transformer is wound.
John
distributed gap toroids
There is another way to get an effective magnetic gap by co-winding the M6 material with a mylar strip film. This is usually done for mass produced cores since the "gap" cannot be adjusted afterwards, but is more mechically stable over time than cut gaps, and simplifies matters for automatic winding equipment. (Since it is a bad idea to wind near any cut gap, very high copper losses near any gap - eddy currents induced in the copper , to the point of overheating and insulation failure in a power core.) But your winder may be able to find a catalog distributed gap core with a reasonable characteristic.
The magnetic flux does have to actually cross the interface between M6 layers to make a loop, it doesn't just spiral out along the sheet. Normal cores are tightly wound M6 strip for this reason, usually spot welded at the outer end to hold them tight or baked with some epoxy binder. So if you should ever want to remove some core material on a DIY project, remove M6 from the inside of the toroid if it has a spot weld on the outside, so it stays tight. The reason the usual toroids act gapless is because of the large area available to cross layers and tight fit. Sort of like Ohms law for resistors; the gap width, or 1/(tightness of wind) in this case, is series resistance, the larger gap area is like paralleling resistors.
There is another way to get an effective magnetic gap by co-winding the M6 material with a mylar strip film. This is usually done for mass produced cores since the "gap" cannot be adjusted afterwards, but is more mechically stable over time than cut gaps, and simplifies matters for automatic winding equipment. (Since it is a bad idea to wind near any cut gap, very high copper losses near any gap - eddy currents induced in the copper , to the point of overheating and insulation failure in a power core.) But your winder may be able to find a catalog distributed gap core with a reasonable characteristic.
The magnetic flux does have to actually cross the interface between M6 layers to make a loop, it doesn't just spiral out along the sheet. Normal cores are tightly wound M6 strip for this reason, usually spot welded at the outer end to hold them tight or baked with some epoxy binder. So if you should ever want to remove some core material on a DIY project, remove M6 from the inside of the toroid if it has a spot weld on the outside, so it stays tight. The reason the usual toroids act gapless is because of the large area available to cross layers and tight fit. Sort of like Ohms law for resistors; the gap width, or 1/(tightness of wind) in this case, is series resistance, the larger gap area is like paralleling resistors.
toroids as power transformers
I have a question about the suitability of the attached toroid power transformer for my use. Simply:
Can I tie the 390v/1.5A winding to the 195v/.5A winding in series and get 585v? Since the current rating on both windings is different and I need 625ma, will tying them together be sufficient?
Do I also need to tie both primaries together in parallel or is using pone primary enough?
Are there any other problems with doing it this way?
I have a question about the suitability of the attached toroid power transformer for my use. Simply:
Can I tie the 390v/1.5A winding to the 195v/.5A winding in series and get 585v? Since the current rating on both windings is different and I need 625ma, will tying them together be sufficient?
Do I also need to tie both primaries together in parallel or is using pone primary enough?
Are there any other problems with doing it this way?
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Series connection. You need more current (.625A) than the coil is designed for (.5A)
It will work for a while though...
It will work for a while though...
Is 0.625 A a constant load or a temporary maximum peak load.
There is a lot of difference between the two.
What is the DC load? How do you rectify? That is again another story than just the AC load.
Regards, Gerrit
There is a lot of difference between the two.
What is the DC load? How do you rectify? That is again another story than just the AC load.
Regards, Gerrit
That is the max dc load.
Rectification is ss rectifiers probably going into LC filter.
Does that change anything (by much)?
What will happen if the circuit exceeds the maximum dc available by the transformer while in operation? Would I necessarily hear the problem?
Rectification is ss rectifiers probably going into LC filter.
Does that change anything (by much)?
What will happen if the circuit exceeds the maximum dc available by the transformer while in operation? Would I necessarily hear the problem?