Greetings,
I recently heard a well respected audiophile and dealer say that a suspended t/turntable such as my Thorens 160 will require a tone arm that attached to the t/t arm board and will not function correctly if it is on its own separate base i.e. completely isolated from the t/table plinth.
Can anyone make comment on this?
Thx, Bob
I recently heard a well respected audiophile and dealer say that a suspended t/turntable such as my Thorens 160 will require a tone arm that attached to the t/t arm board and will not function correctly if it is on its own separate base i.e. completely isolated from the t/table plinth.
Can anyone make comment on this?
Thx, Bob
In the case of the Thorens TD -160 the tonearm is in fact isolated from the plinth. The tonearm is mounted to the frame that platter is also mounted to so both move in unison on the suspension system.
If the tonearm did not move in unison to the platter there would be all kinds of problems.
If the tonearm did not move in unison to the platter there would be all kinds of problems.
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He is right. The arm needs to maintain an exact position in relationship to the record. with a suspended turntable the platter can move in various ways that a seperate base cannot account for. For example any rocking motion will completely mess up azimuth or VTA. The arm needs to bounce, rock and roll with the suspension.
which is of course over simplifying matters. You can make it work if things are well enough isolated that the suspension doesn't have to move much, and in general it doesn't, but I wouldn't recommend it.
which is of course over simplifying matters. You can make it work if things are well enough isolated that the suspension doesn't have to move much, and in general it doesn't, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Wow!
Now I don't know what to do.
My arm is 12 inches - quite thin ebony. But it sounds great. Is it possible for the arm to be so sensitive to vibration that it has the capacity to 'rock and roll' and adjust?
Bob
Now I don't know what to do.
My arm is 12 inches - quite thin ebony. But it sounds great. Is it possible for the arm to be so sensitive to vibration that it has the capacity to 'rock and roll' and adjust?
Bob
I too happen to have a Thorens TD-160 with the original tonearm. Mine was rebuilt and included an aftermarket plinth. I installed a Shure M97xe to replace the cheap cartridge he sold it with. In my opinion it sounds great and I'm sure if I installed a better cartridge would only sound better. I have a Denon DL-110 on my Technics SL1200MkII that I could swap out. I also have a Shure V15 Type III on my SL1100 that I'd also consider.
I didn't realize how sensitive to vibration the turntable is until after I got it. It looks like the only way I will be able to isolate it from my floor movement is to put it on a wall shelf.
Sorry for sorta hijacking the thread but perhaps what I'm writing might have relevance to the OP's
I didn't realize how sensitive to vibration the turntable is until after I got it. It looks like the only way I will be able to isolate it from my floor movement is to put it on a wall shelf.
Sorry for sorta hijacking the thread but perhaps what I'm writing might have relevance to the OP's
Thank you Sprags,
I appreciate your comments very much.
I understand the logic that we want the stylus to transmit only the vibration in the groove - hence the arm should keep its relationship to the turntable constant.
But, the arm/cart sound great. I can't figure that out except that the tone arm participates in another way.
Bob
I appreciate your comments very much.
I understand the logic that we want the stylus to transmit only the vibration in the groove - hence the arm should keep its relationship to the turntable constant.
But, the arm/cart sound great. I can't figure that out except that the tone arm participates in another way.
Bob
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