Re: Warning!!!
Thanks ,
this thread was getting coherent...
KBK said:
Thanks ,
this thread was getting coherent...
Insecure is the word. Or just plain ill...
I was probably the product of some bet or drugs or something. I think he might of killed a few brain cells earlier possibly. People will do crazy stuff and you'll never know why. It's what they call "just for the heck of it". I won't comment further.
-keantoken
I was probably the product of some bet or drugs or something. I think he might of killed a few brain cells earlier possibly. People will do crazy stuff and you'll never know why. It's what they call "just for the heck of it". I won't comment further.
-keantoken
Exhibit approximately #439, or so, of overunity that I am aware of.
How long before this man is destroyed, or dies?
How much longer must this world die for oil and oligarches???????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw
Now, for you disbelievers, find out who this is. find out more about it. Looks like a modification of Victor Schauberger's work.
Watch what happens.
Keep your eye on the ball. See how long it takes him..to die.
It is connected to this:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:VS-Jet-Turbine
and is yet again definable within this:
http://www.warp-eneco.com/
And connected to the fact that many feel that 'brown's gas' is a 4th form of water. Energy, via orbital 'malfeasance'. It's a short story actually. Specifically it relates to WATER, OK.... WATER.
Use your head! (smack!) (ow!) please...........
and so on, and so on, and so on.
How much longer must the world die for their greed and insanity?
When will you guys wake up and get on this bus???
You can get far more than 70% overunity, (it's more of a nuclear fusion or 'egress' thing-atomic splitting or orbital 'deformation') once you understand what is going on. Read David Hudson's work on monatomics** and electron orbitals-deformation/superconductors/anti-gravity...and you will literally have EVERY SINGLE FACT you need to draw the dots into a coherent line of understanding. My little bit on 'maxwellian regulators' (new 'power supply idea' thread) is the most retarded simple fart in that general direction. It's so dead simple when you get what is going on. No point in physics wil ever be a mystery to you again.
Now, how much does a week or a month of effort get you here? It gets you everything you ever hoped for the world. So quit sitting on your ***..and DO IT.
why do I want you to do it? I am only one voice - that is easy to ridicule or silence. An army of knowlege is harder to put down.
**google 'David Hudson at the ranch'....and listen to the lectures.
How long before this man is destroyed, or dies?
How much longer must this world die for oil and oligarches???????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw
Now, for you disbelievers, find out who this is. find out more about it. Looks like a modification of Victor Schauberger's work.
Watch what happens.
Keep your eye on the ball. See how long it takes him..to die.
It is connected to this:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:VS-Jet-Turbine
and is yet again definable within this:
http://www.warp-eneco.com/
And connected to the fact that many feel that 'brown's gas' is a 4th form of water. Energy, via orbital 'malfeasance'. It's a short story actually. Specifically it relates to WATER, OK.... WATER.
Use your head! (smack!) (ow!) please...........
and so on, and so on, and so on.
How much longer must the world die for their greed and insanity?
When will you guys wake up and get on this bus???
You can get far more than 70% overunity, (it's more of a nuclear fusion or 'egress' thing-atomic splitting or orbital 'deformation') once you understand what is going on. Read David Hudson's work on monatomics** and electron orbitals-deformation/superconductors/anti-gravity...and you will literally have EVERY SINGLE FACT you need to draw the dots into a coherent line of understanding. My little bit on 'maxwellian regulators' (new 'power supply idea' thread) is the most retarded simple fart in that general direction. It's so dead simple when you get what is going on. No point in physics wil ever be a mystery to you again.
Now, how much does a week or a month of effort get you here? It gets you everything you ever hoped for the world. So quit sitting on your ***..and DO IT.
why do I want you to do it? I am only one voice - that is easy to ridicule or silence. An army of knowlege is harder to put down.
**google 'David Hudson at the ranch'....and listen to the lectures.
Hello, all.
Keep in mind, guys, that what we are talking about is the some of the ABSOLUTE WORST things that happen. Everything that goes on in this discussion should be taken with a grain of salt. I am not trying to protest, KBK, but one who talks out as much as you do can become a target - and if a change in policy is needed, we will want someone like you to lead the rebellion. In an earlier post, you revealed a piece of information which can lead a hitman or something straight to you. If a change in policy is needed, we need the right leaders to do the right thing - and those leaders must be chosen as carefully as possible. They must be intelligent, down to earth, fair, determined, brave, and well-educated. With these, the most important one is to be able to tell fact from opinion, lie, rumor, desperation, media, and intentional obscuring of the truth. They must not be afraid to stand up and defend themselves, others, or even their enemies at times. They must know their followers as well as their enemies and must be able to accept that no one is perfect. This is so that they can admit their weaknesses and better attempt to strengthen themselves as well as their followers. These properties in unison make a perfect leader.
Yes, indeed people need to get up off their computer chairs and do something about the fallen debris of their once great nation, but we must not become obsessed with the stories and conspiracies that result. This in itself can cause a man to go blind of his surroundings and state unbelievably exaggerated ideas. This is how many conspiracy theorists become unpopular. Some insult what others see as the truth, some become radical, and yet others become blind to what is there to be seen. DO NOT deliberately go searching for conspiracy theories and become obsessed - process every bit of information you receive carefully and do not be fooled by people trying to become popular by obscuring the truth to make it seem as if we are being mistreated by the forces that are being inspected. Keep your heads and your wits, and never let them wander away - think carefully about whatever you do so as to make the right decisions as often as possible.
My two keantokens of knowledge, shared with the general public.

-keantoken
Keep in mind, guys, that what we are talking about is the some of the ABSOLUTE WORST things that happen. Everything that goes on in this discussion should be taken with a grain of salt. I am not trying to protest, KBK, but one who talks out as much as you do can become a target - and if a change in policy is needed, we will want someone like you to lead the rebellion. In an earlier post, you revealed a piece of information which can lead a hitman or something straight to you. If a change in policy is needed, we need the right leaders to do the right thing - and those leaders must be chosen as carefully as possible. They must be intelligent, down to earth, fair, determined, brave, and well-educated. With these, the most important one is to be able to tell fact from opinion, lie, rumor, desperation, media, and intentional obscuring of the truth. They must not be afraid to stand up and defend themselves, others, or even their enemies at times. They must know their followers as well as their enemies and must be able to accept that no one is perfect. This is so that they can admit their weaknesses and better attempt to strengthen themselves as well as their followers. These properties in unison make a perfect leader.
Yes, indeed people need to get up off their computer chairs and do something about the fallen debris of their once great nation, but we must not become obsessed with the stories and conspiracies that result. This in itself can cause a man to go blind of his surroundings and state unbelievably exaggerated ideas. This is how many conspiracy theorists become unpopular. Some insult what others see as the truth, some become radical, and yet others become blind to what is there to be seen. DO NOT deliberately go searching for conspiracy theories and become obsessed - process every bit of information you receive carefully and do not be fooled by people trying to become popular by obscuring the truth to make it seem as if we are being mistreated by the forces that are being inspected. Keep your heads and your wits, and never let them wander away - think carefully about whatever you do so as to make the right decisions as often as possible.
My two keantokens of knowledge, shared with the general public.

-keantoken
KBK, Sorry to burst your bubble again, but there is one country that, because of the culture, is not in thrall to western oil companies, and is also bereft of it's own natural sources of energy. Japan. They spent years trying to replicate cold fusion, with a huge budget and failed.
If there are any other technologies out there that might work, I'm sure they'd be researching them as well, and as publically as they did cold fusion. They need the power and will try anything. 😉
If there are any other technologies out there that might work, I'm sure they'd be researching them as well, and as publically as they did cold fusion. They need the power and will try anything. 😉
pinkmouse said:KBK, Sorry to burst your bubble again, but there is one country that, because of the culture, is not in thrall to western oil companies, and is also bereft of it's own natural sources of energy. Japan. They spent years trying to replicate cold fusion, with a huge budget and failed.
If there are any other technologies out there that might work, I'm sure they'd be researching them as well, and as publically as they did cold fusion. They need the power and will try anything. 😉
It was in 1992, that Toyota tried to bring a 'electric' car into the US market, that required no gasoline, and no electrical charging. It was a vehicle that had a self powering and self charging magnetic based over unity design motor in it.
They announced the car and it hit Reuters news wire and was everywhere, on the news. My brother heard it on the radio as he was waking up one day, at about 10am. I was there, my bro and I were sharing space at the time.
He was so intrigued, that he called the radio station up, to get more details. The news announcer found it to ba a really neat thing too, so he told my brother to wait a sec, and he would do another 'search' on the Reuter's wire service, to get a more complete picture. "Toyota announces electric car," was the story that most people heard. The real (more complete) story, was the one that the radio announcer voiced on the air, which was the one that my brother heard.
The reporter came back to my brother with a bit of confusion in his voice, as he said..the story was not there anymore.
It was gone. But he had JUST reported it....
Half a year, or less, later... The US government announces massive hits on Japanese car imports, and a specific and massive attack on Toyota vehicle plants, both existing and planned. G. W. Senior was the prez at the time.
Toyota backed down. They didn't even bring in a -regular design- electric car, nevermind the one that needed zero gas or any external power at all.
It may be, that if someone were to analyse the existing electric motor design in the current Toyota Hybrids, that some anomolus (or seemingly 'odd') design characteristics may be found. Who knows.
My claims and stories are far from baseless.
Thanks for your opinion but remember we have the 'no politics' rule written here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/announcement.php?s=&announcementid=4&forumid=9
/Hugo
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/announcement.php?s=&announcementid=4&forumid=9
/Hugo
Okay, I have just deleted my post...
Sorry about that, had an explosion of thought and didn't really think much when I was exporting my thoughts onto the keyboard.
-keantoken
Sorry about that, had an explosion of thought and didn't really think much when I was exporting my thoughts onto the keyboard.
-keantoken
KBK said:...The reporter came back to my brother with a bit of confusion in his voice, as he said..the story was not there anymore...
Don't you think that Reuters censoring a story that they had sent out on their worldwide wire service would be a much better story for the press than yet another electric car launch? 😉
probably.
But, anomalous things happen all the time, if you put in the effort to search them out.
From these 'odd' occurances, a structure can many times be built, that does not 'jibe' with the so-called 'normal considerations' of life.
Here's another revisionist point that has to take place, in terms of humanity's current understandings of ancient or older technologies.
As in..a 1000 year shift. This just in. BTW, history is a NEW thing, having been introduced (conceptually-as a 'occupation') a mere 120 or so years ago:
Ancient Computer Was Unexpectedly Complex
By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
The New York Times
A computer in antiquity would seem to be an anachronism, like Athena ordering takeout on her cell phone.
But a century ago, pieces of a strange mechanism with bronze gears and dials were recovered from an ancient shipwreck off the coast of Greece. Historians of science concluded that this was an instrument that calculated and illustrated astronomical information, particularly phases of the moon and planetary motions, in the second century B.C.
The Antikythera Mechanism, sometimes called the world's first computer, has now been examined with the latest in high-resolution imaging systems and three-dimensional X-ray tomography. A team of British, Greek and American researchers was able to decipher many inscriptions and reconstruct the gear functions, revealing, they said, "an unexpected degree of technical sophistication for the period."
The researchers, led by Tony Freeth and Mike G. Edmunds, both of the University of Cardiff, Wales, are reporting the results of their study in today's issue of the journal Nature.
They said their findings showed that the inscriptions related to lunar-solar motions and the gears were a mechanical representation of the irregularities of the moon's orbital course across the sky, as theorized by the astronomer Hipparchos. They established the date of the mechanism at 150-100 B.C.
The Roman ship carrying the artifacts sank off the island of Antikythera about 65 B.C. Some evidence suggests that the ship had sailed from Rhodes. The researchers speculated that Hipparchos, who lived on Rhodes, might have had a hand in designing the device.
In another article in the journal, a scholar not involved in the research, Francois Charette of the University of Munich museum, in Germany, said the new interpretation of the Antikythera Mechanism "is highly seductive and convincing in all of its details." It is not the last word, he concluded, "but it does provide a new standard, and a wealth of fresh data, for future research."
Historians of technology think the instrument is more complex than any known device for at least a millennium afterward.
The hand-operated mechanism, presumably used in preparing calendars for seasons of planting and harvesting and fixing religious festivals, had at least 30, possibly 37, hand-cut bronze gear-wheels, the researchers reported. An ingenious pin-and-slot device connecting two gear-wheels induced variations in the representation of lunar motions according to the Hipparchos model of the moon's elliptical orbit around Earth.
The functions of the mechanism were determined by the numbers of teeth in the gears. The 53-tooth count of certain gears, the researchers said, was "powerful confirmation of our proposed model of Hipparchos' lunar theory."
The detailed imaging revealed more than twice as many inscriptions as had been recognized from earlier examinations. Some of these appeared to relate to planetary as well as lunar motions. Perhaps, the researchers said, the mechanism also had gearings to predict the positions of known planets.
Charette noted that more than 1,000 years elapsed before instruments of such complexity are known to have re-emerged. A few artifacts and some Arabic texts suggest that simpler geared calendrical devices had existed, particularly in Baghdad about A.D. 900.
But, anomalous things happen all the time, if you put in the effort to search them out.
From these 'odd' occurances, a structure can many times be built, that does not 'jibe' with the so-called 'normal considerations' of life.
Here's another revisionist point that has to take place, in terms of humanity's current understandings of ancient or older technologies.
As in..a 1000 year shift. This just in. BTW, history is a NEW thing, having been introduced (conceptually-as a 'occupation') a mere 120 or so years ago:
Ancient Computer Was Unexpectedly Complex
By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
The New York Times
A computer in antiquity would seem to be an anachronism, like Athena ordering takeout on her cell phone.
But a century ago, pieces of a strange mechanism with bronze gears and dials were recovered from an ancient shipwreck off the coast of Greece. Historians of science concluded that this was an instrument that calculated and illustrated astronomical information, particularly phases of the moon and planetary motions, in the second century B.C.
The Antikythera Mechanism, sometimes called the world's first computer, has now been examined with the latest in high-resolution imaging systems and three-dimensional X-ray tomography. A team of British, Greek and American researchers was able to decipher many inscriptions and reconstruct the gear functions, revealing, they said, "an unexpected degree of technical sophistication for the period."
The researchers, led by Tony Freeth and Mike G. Edmunds, both of the University of Cardiff, Wales, are reporting the results of their study in today's issue of the journal Nature.
They said their findings showed that the inscriptions related to lunar-solar motions and the gears were a mechanical representation of the irregularities of the moon's orbital course across the sky, as theorized by the astronomer Hipparchos. They established the date of the mechanism at 150-100 B.C.
The Roman ship carrying the artifacts sank off the island of Antikythera about 65 B.C. Some evidence suggests that the ship had sailed from Rhodes. The researchers speculated that Hipparchos, who lived on Rhodes, might have had a hand in designing the device.
In another article in the journal, a scholar not involved in the research, Francois Charette of the University of Munich museum, in Germany, said the new interpretation of the Antikythera Mechanism "is highly seductive and convincing in all of its details." It is not the last word, he concluded, "but it does provide a new standard, and a wealth of fresh data, for future research."
Historians of technology think the instrument is more complex than any known device for at least a millennium afterward.
The hand-operated mechanism, presumably used in preparing calendars for seasons of planting and harvesting and fixing religious festivals, had at least 30, possibly 37, hand-cut bronze gear-wheels, the researchers reported. An ingenious pin-and-slot device connecting two gear-wheels induced variations in the representation of lunar motions according to the Hipparchos model of the moon's elliptical orbit around Earth.
The functions of the mechanism were determined by the numbers of teeth in the gears. The 53-tooth count of certain gears, the researchers said, was "powerful confirmation of our proposed model of Hipparchos' lunar theory."
The detailed imaging revealed more than twice as many inscriptions as had been recognized from earlier examinations. Some of these appeared to relate to planetary as well as lunar motions. Perhaps, the researchers said, the mechanism also had gearings to predict the positions of known planets.
Charette noted that more than 1,000 years elapsed before instruments of such complexity are known to have re-emerged. A few artifacts and some Arabic texts suggest that simpler geared calendrical devices had existed, particularly in Baghdad about A.D. 900.
Oh I do. I have every issue of Fortean Times since 1990, and a wide selection of books on similar topics. But as a true fortean, I also think for myself, rather than let other people make up my mind for me. 😉
As for the Antikythera Mechanism, it is a truely marvelous device. But people back then were just as clever as we are now. Cultures forget things for many reasons. I was just reading an interesting book about the salt industry in North America in the 17th and 18th Centuries. They developed a technique for concentrating brine that was originally used, then forgotten about in China, over two and a half thousand years ago, and just recently excavated at new digs.
And in a similar vein, again..those dang Ukes, once gain claiming they are the oldest dudes in the world:
Pyramids Older Than Egyptian Allegedly Found in Ukraine
Created: 08.09.2006 13:29 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 13:29 MSK
Archaeologists in Ukraine have unearthed the remains of an ancient pyramidal structure that pre-dates those in Egypt by at least 300 years. The stone foundations of the structure, which probably resembled Aztec and Mayan ziggurats in South America, were discovered near the eastern city of Lugansk.
It is thought they were laid about five millennia ago during the early Bronze Age by animists who worshipped a sun god. The “pyramid” is in fact a complex of temples and sacrificial altars topping a sculpted hillside with steps on its sides.
Viktor Klochko, head of the excavation, said the discovery was of international significance. “This is the first monument of its age and kind found in eastern Europe,” he told the Guardian. “It changes our whole conception of the social structure and the level of development of the cattle breeders and farmers who were the direct ancestors of most European peoples.”
There are about 100 pyramids in Egypt, and the remains of Mesopotamian pyramids are preserved in Iraq and Iran. Ziggurats are also found in Mexico, and the Nubians built pyramids as burial sites for monarchs in the Nile valley. But pyramid structures are rare in Europe. One of the few is a Roman-era pyramid near Nice, France, that may have been built by legionnaires involved in an Egyptian cult.
Although graves have been found at the Lugansk site, archaeologists think it was used for sacrifice by burning, rather than as a burial ground. “People lived in the surrounding valleys and climbed up it to carry out their ceremonies,” said Mr Klochko. “They had a pagan cult that bowed down to the sun, as did the ancestors of the Slavs.”
Remains of sacrifice victims, ashes and ceramics have been found at the site, but no jewellery or treasure. The complex, which covered three-quarters of a square mile and was around 60 metres (192ft) high, was probably used for 2,000 years.
“What surprised me most is the scale of this enormous complex,” Stanislav Mogilny, a student working on the excavation, told Russian television. It’s just incredible — a titanic feat.“
Pyramids Older Than Egyptian Allegedly Found in Ukraine
Created: 08.09.2006 13:29 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 13:29 MSK
Archaeologists in Ukraine have unearthed the remains of an ancient pyramidal structure that pre-dates those in Egypt by at least 300 years. The stone foundations of the structure, which probably resembled Aztec and Mayan ziggurats in South America, were discovered near the eastern city of Lugansk.
It is thought they were laid about five millennia ago during the early Bronze Age by animists who worshipped a sun god. The “pyramid” is in fact a complex of temples and sacrificial altars topping a sculpted hillside with steps on its sides.
Viktor Klochko, head of the excavation, said the discovery was of international significance. “This is the first monument of its age and kind found in eastern Europe,” he told the Guardian. “It changes our whole conception of the social structure and the level of development of the cattle breeders and farmers who were the direct ancestors of most European peoples.”
There are about 100 pyramids in Egypt, and the remains of Mesopotamian pyramids are preserved in Iraq and Iran. Ziggurats are also found in Mexico, and the Nubians built pyramids as burial sites for monarchs in the Nile valley. But pyramid structures are rare in Europe. One of the few is a Roman-era pyramid near Nice, France, that may have been built by legionnaires involved in an Egyptian cult.
Although graves have been found at the Lugansk site, archaeologists think it was used for sacrifice by burning, rather than as a burial ground. “People lived in the surrounding valleys and climbed up it to carry out their ceremonies,” said Mr Klochko. “They had a pagan cult that bowed down to the sun, as did the ancestors of the Slavs.”
Remains of sacrifice victims, ashes and ceramics have been found at the site, but no jewellery or treasure. The complex, which covered three-quarters of a square mile and was around 60 metres (192ft) high, was probably used for 2,000 years.
“What surprised me most is the scale of this enormous complex,” Stanislav Mogilny, a student working on the excavation, told Russian television. It’s just incredible — a titanic feat.“
pinkmouse said:As for the Antikythera Mechanism, it is a truely marvelous device. But people back then were just as clever as we are now. Cultures forget things for many reasons. I was just reading an interesting book about the salt industry in North America in the 17th and 18th Centuries. They developed a technique for concentrating brine that was originally used, then forgotten about in China, over two and a half thousand years ago, and just recently excavated at new digs.
True enough. One of my favorite parts is that..if such a thing was hidden, or kept to a few people, or a select group.. what could be extrapolated in a few hundred years, within that group? Look what humanity has done in modern times within the scope of esoteric subjects, within a few small groups.
Now, who would be foolish enought dismiss the possibility of a group from 2000, 3000, 5000, even 10,000 years ago, haaving figured out things we cannnot yet concieve of today? After all, things, in terms of scientific advancement empahtically do not need to be mechanistically complex and computer based. They can be geometric considerations of 'field effects'. No reason why not. Sophistication is a matter of metal mindset, and execution; frequently it is subtle as well, and is also a reflection of the tools available, at that given time in history.
The big problem, or one of them, in terms of the pronouncements of poo-pooing older esoteric technologies, is the modern scientist, with his willfull, blinkered, blindfilded and polarized head. The scientist may be capable of evaluating a given piece of gear, or designing one, but beyond that, is incredibly ill suited to make judgment calls on a given device or artifact.
For many scientists are clouded metally, by their own internal monkey and it's 'beliefs'. Well, beliefs do not belong in science. Facts do. Investigation does. Hypothesizing and running with such (to try it on for size...and see where it leads) definitely do. And the problem I have is people who purport to believe in the idea if science, those particualr people reaching out with their emotions instead, and decrying something as 'impossble'.
Anyway..whatever!
Which is why I can make simple and obvious straightforward remarks like, " ...everything Tesla said was possible, truly was. And he knew from actual experimental and emperical results, not theory-fantasy. Every bit he ever claimed. And all that, not with complex devices that do not yet exist, but with the tools of his time." So, go back..and look again. With open eyes and mind.
Okay,
My brother and I just listened to a part of one of David Hudson's lectures. Insane Stuff. Superconductors and ORME/S-ORME stuff... Just like in your sig, KBK. I should have known that you put that in your sig for some strangely linked insane stuff... What''s even stranger is that that guy sounds like someone I know who is probably just as smart.
creepy
My brother and I just listened to a part of one of David Hudson's lectures. Insane Stuff. Superconductors and ORME/S-ORME stuff... Just like in your sig, KBK. I should have known that you put that in your sig for some strangely linked insane stuff... What''s even stranger is that that guy sounds like someone I know who is probably just as smart.
creepy

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