The mix isn't flat...but if your system isn't flat, you'll never hear what the mix/master engineer intended... some say, without being in the same room as where the material was mastered, that you will never hear exactly what they heard, never the less the loudspeaker represents a filter, thus, a transfer function.... Accuracy is 1:1 input😱utput.Flat? Flat is crap - nobody's hearing is flat.
The smiley face EQ is a poor example to try and prove your point. I bet classical and jazz listeners did not run to this voicing in the car... when I first started driving I tried to put my house stereo in the car using a too small power inverter... somehow you seem to suggest that an underpowered house amplifier is my true passion lol
Of course now we are talking accuracy versus preference right? Is accuracy supposed to appease you? Or is it just a matter of fact? I agree that not everyone is going to think that a 100% accurate system sounds the best. Keyword being think... and just as subjective is the word best. I really just wanted to comment on the idea of "disappointment"... if one does not spend an extended amount of time using a new voicing, their opinion is shallow..., its like walking into the sun light after spending 24hrs in pitch black then sayiing the light is tooooo bright... or trying straight black coffee though you only drink it with 6 sugars 6 creams... you become accustomed to what you hear over an extended amount of time. More importantly, if you subjectively prefer what you're inaccurately hearing, then you switch to a source significantly more accurate or significantly different from what you're hearing, you're definitely going to immediately disapprove of the sound. It can take more than a week or two for you to come to a place where you sit down and accept what the systems doing after a re-voicing or significant polar change...I suspect OP has listened to flat and was disappointed, and I'd agree...
Take a person and high pass their daily system at 80hz for a month then remove it, letting them down to 45hz before roll off, they will first say, holy cow theres soooo much bass now, then bring in a friend who listens to a system flat down to 25hz, daily, to show your "great bass" to and they will hear it as bass shy...
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I'm not sure we are. I gave one example above with the peak. Another example is your chosen DI setting a more general tonal slope.now we are talking accuracy versus preference right?
I'd like to think we are not using the measuring tools to there full potential or that the tools are falling short. I agree with you but I want to be able to trust measurements.
I feel like if one is looking for accuracy. Then because of what you've stated, one should go through the whole spectrum very slowly looking for areas they perceive as a deviation, using a sine tone.
I feel like if one is looking for accuracy. Then because of what you've stated, one should go through the whole spectrum very slowly looking for areas they perceive as a deviation, using a sine tone.
@camplo I'm not doubting measurements.
The two main deficiencies, if I were to guess on the spot, may be...
1. Not being able to directly assess how something will sound from a measurement, although with the right knowledge perhaps...
2. Not choosing the right measurement to show what really matters.
And the runner up prize might have to go to those that look at a measurement and say 'that looks good', like isn't that square wave square looking?
The two main deficiencies, if I were to guess on the spot, may be...
1. Not being able to directly assess how something will sound from a measurement, although with the right knowledge perhaps...
2. Not choosing the right measurement to show what really matters.
And the runner up prize might have to go to those that look at a measurement and say 'that looks good', like isn't that square wave square looking?
Do you all have the skills (i.e. passive parts) to make a constant smooth diving power response ?
If it is hard below the Schroeder frequency to acheive because of the in room measurement difficulties, I am not sure it is so easy to acheive that smooth diving above it as well.
Do you success to design easily and like a smooth diving magnitude at the listening position (far fielld, i.e. from 3 meters) , say constant 5 to 7 dB dive from 200/300 hz to 20 k hz ?
You design flat at 1 meter on axis to acheive this and crossing digits (the fingers I mean) the off axis response follow that good behavior as well ?
If it is hard below the Schroeder frequency to acheive because of the in room measurement difficulties, I am not sure it is so easy to acheive that smooth diving above it as well.
Do you success to design easily and like a smooth diving magnitude at the listening position (far fielld, i.e. from 3 meters) , say constant 5 to 7 dB dive from 200/300 hz to 20 k hz ?
You design flat at 1 meter on axis to acheive this and crossing digits (the fingers I mean) the off axis response follow that good behavior as well ?