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XXLS830845
Peerless, 830845
Got these in a 60ltr sealed box.
post#12
XXLS830845
Peerless, 830845
Got these in a 60ltr sealed box.
what's the size of that little pinky ?
well , I'm interested - did you had opportunity to hear some bigger cones , in range of 92-94db/W/m , to compare what you have now and to think what approach you like more
indeed , at least for my two cells banging inside my scull , FW amplification is more of that story - biggish (7-8") main driver + really fast bass helper
fast means lowish Le , decent motor and light cone
not urging ya to see world with my eyes , just explaining my fave ...... ( OK , one of ) approach
well , I'm interested - did you had opportunity to hear some bigger cones , in range of 92-94db/W/m , to compare what you have now and to think what approach you like more
indeed , at least for my two cells banging inside my scull , FW amplification is more of that story - biggish (7-8") main driver + really fast bass helper
fast means lowish Le , decent motor and light cone
not urging ya to see world with my eyes , just explaining my fave ...... ( OK , one of ) approach
Its 4". Only big speaks i have heard are guitar versions. Not listened to any FR larger than 6". I came from multiway and magnapan world. Like FR because it offers a top to bottom coherence you dont get from other options. What you think about AN15. BudP seems to think they are decent. Cant afford any of the old treasures like RCA or Tannoy.
Yes i did. Very nice indeed, and what i was thinking about.Another guy is running 12.2 OB with similar seale dbass below and really likes it.
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look at sonido.hu - they're having english version of site , and look for data for their 12" and 15" drivers also for their 8"
just for information - 8" are in range of 300-350E for pair , while 12" are in range of 200+ E/pair
anyway - they're overseas for you but point is that best thing you can find for FW thingies is sort of old school driver , made with today's tech .
I already wrote up what main quality you need from bass ( and your subwoof is just that - subwoof , no matter how good is )
while , looking at main driver , in same time you need speed and delicacy but in same time old Yank saying is valid - you can't replace cubic inches .... for proper scale and dynamics , you need size
so - 7" as main driver is smallest drek I can except
so , conclusion - what you can see on that link is simplest approach one can use - going boxless and bafleless for FR is least troublesome ( NB that that baffle on pic is bigger than I would make , but I didn't make those boxes) , while MLTL box for bass helper is least boxie sounding solution and still economic/easy/fast to make
10 yrs ago I could live with FR in BLH , but I became spoiled with big cones after .....
MHead's Nirvana's ?
dunno , didn't heard them ; maybe they would click , maybe don't
anyway - one thing is sure - any FR in this world is wise to pay only after hearing
just for information - 8" are in range of 300-350E for pair , while 12" are in range of 200+ E/pair
anyway - they're overseas for you but point is that best thing you can find for FW thingies is sort of old school driver , made with today's tech .
I already wrote up what main quality you need from bass ( and your subwoof is just that - subwoof , no matter how good is )
while , looking at main driver , in same time you need speed and delicacy but in same time old Yank saying is valid - you can't replace cubic inches .... for proper scale and dynamics , you need size
so - 7" as main driver is smallest drek I can except
so , conclusion - what you can see on that link is simplest approach one can use - going boxless and bafleless for FR is least troublesome ( NB that that baffle on pic is bigger than I would make , but I didn't make those boxes) , while MLTL box for bass helper is least boxie sounding solution and still economic/easy/fast to make
10 yrs ago I could live with FR in BLH , but I became spoiled with big cones after .....
MHead's Nirvana's ?
dunno , didn't heard them ; maybe they would click , maybe don't
anyway - one thing is sure - any FR in this world is wise to pay only after hearing
hard to say without direct comparison
pick one which is easier to get
unfortunately , if not going active - 12" Sonido is pair for their's 8"-ers , becuse 15" is having some db edge on them
that combo from my blog is proven , all you need is big honking Torobar choke for bass and some motor run cond for FR (and my fave MKC 1uF as bypass)
with their 15" one will need either upping autoformer (yuk!) or Bsomething active xover and dedicated amp
point is in speed and muscle of both - bass helper , and 8 " FR
or go with Lyn Olson 416 + horn route
or go MHead route
whatever you do - just go away from pinkies ; they're nice ...... but not potent and nice in same time
pick one which is easier to get
unfortunately , if not going active - 12" Sonido is pair for their's 8"-ers , becuse 15" is having some db edge on them
that combo from my blog is proven , all you need is big honking Torobar choke for bass and some motor run cond for FR (and my fave MKC 1uF as bypass)
with their 15" one will need either upping autoformer (yuk!) or Bsomething active xover and dedicated amp
point is in speed and muscle of both - bass helper , and 8 " FR
or go with Lyn Olson 416 + horn route
or go MHead route
whatever you do - just go away from pinkies ; they're nice ...... but not potent and nice in same time
btw. I'm having fun - last moonshine for this year , watching movies or listening Absolute Radio 60'
whoever invented WiFi ,he was clever chap
whoever invented WiFi ,he was clever chap

Indeed. Multitasking fun! Ill look into Sonidos. Will have Bclone so anything is option. Gotta go break news of bigger speaks to wife😀
mine was surprised to hear that spks for our living room will be smaller than RCA's in my workshop

but - I didn't told her that small Kef Chorale will be laying on top of these , paired with some non-class-A-receiver , for her use


but - I didn't told her that small Kef Chorale will be laying on top of these , paired with some non-class-A-receiver , for her use

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I didn't see a frequency response in the data of the Sonido.
http://www.sonido.hu/adat_pdf/scw-300.pdf
Im interested coz I've just purchased some NEO24.5, and need something to fill in from 300Hz down.
http://stomach.v2.nl/docs/Hardware/Audio/NeoPlanar Driver Specifications .pdf
Small quantity available from Apex, grab a bargin while available. 😉
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/apex-jr/219956-f-s-flat-panel-ribbon-tweeters-neo24.html
http://www.sonido.hu/adat_pdf/scw-300.pdf
Im interested coz I've just purchased some NEO24.5, and need something to fill in from 300Hz down.
http://stomach.v2.nl/docs/Hardware/Audio/NeoPlanar Driver Specifications .pdf
Small quantity available from Apex, grab a bargin while available. 😉
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/apex-jr/219956-f-s-flat-panel-ribbon-tweeters-neo24.html
do you like long , lazy and no bigger than life movies ?
I'm just enjoying one
Open Range (2003) - IMDb
(ok , I'm sucker for all sort of movies , but this sort is for tonight )
I'm just enjoying one
Open Range (2003) - IMDb
(ok , I'm sucker for all sort of movies , but this sort is for tonight )
dunno is this because of the movie , or last year's apple brandy , or both ..... but I'm filled with love and pathos


Oh no. You got MAJOR competition.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/analogue-source/220309-masterpiece.html
OK, so the first couple wont work. Perhaps Masterpiece Theater
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/analogue-source/220309-masterpiece.html
OK, so the first couple wont work. Perhaps Masterpiece Theater

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