Was ready for a change. Will undoubtedly be again 😉
But… I wasn’t really ready for this. Heared?
But… I wasn’t really ready for this. Heared?
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what?
Tnxgvng is not good enough for us, not living Stateside?
Or we are not good enough for Tnxgvng?
Or we are not good enough for Stateside?
Tnxgvng is not good enough for us, not living Stateside?
Or we are not good enough for Tnxgvng?
Or we are not good enough for Stateside?
Happy Holiday
Best wishes to all.
Nothing provocative intended. Have a drink, relax. Chill! 🙏
Best wishes to all.
Nothing provocative intended. Have a drink, relax. Chill! 🙏
@zm: Ah, you can have whatever kind of Thanksgiving you want!
Personally, among my various stereo adventures I really enjoyed using my ACP+ as a preamp. A true reflection of Nelson's genius: simple, single ended, second input, no case needed, plenty of oomph for amps needing good voltage gain, sounds excellent.
And I really enjoy this forum and everybody here.
Happy Thanksgiving!
- Celebrate the myths associated with the landing of the Pilgrims in America in 1620. Never mind that what is now the American west had already been colonized for a while by Spaniards coming up from Mexico City.
- Do the whole commercial bit with approved foods from a fairly rigid menu, advertised in the stores for several weeks in advance. Hmm, is your turkey stuffing better than my turkey stuffing? How about jellied vs. non-jellied cranberry sauce?
- Gather the extended family for a huge meal where everybody tries not to talk about the current divisive state of American politics. They succeed until the legendary stereotyped "Drunken Uncle" makes a loud nuisance of himself insisting on having the political argument.
- Be quietly thankful, together with a few loved ones. Grateful for whatever floats your boat. Eat whatever the hell you want.
Personally, among my various stereo adventures I really enjoyed using my ACP+ as a preamp. A true reflection of Nelson's genius: simple, single ended, second input, no case needed, plenty of oomph for amps needing good voltage gain, sounds excellent.
And I really enjoy this forum and everybody here.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Spain first reached Alta California in 1542 with Cabrillo's expedition which went as far as Santa Barbara.
Since the very late 1500, Spanish Galleons making the Mexico-Manila route would touch on the shores of California on their return trip ( following the winds ) but they did not settle anything... mostly they likely just wanted some water and perhaps provisions.
Hardly what I would call a colonization...
Portola came to San Diego in 1769. They even reached San Francisco Bay. Father Junipero Serra ( my favorite of them all ) founded the San Diego Mission (San Diego de Alcala ) that year. And in 1770, he founded San Carlos Borromeo in Monterey.
So, not until 1769, and the arrival of Junipero Serra, did Spain start to colonize Alta California.
It's a great story, and for those of us in SoCal a wonderful history. We've done most of the missions and it's a wonderful bit of history.
BUT, the East Coast started to get colonized easily 200 years before Alta California. The overland routes from Mexico to California are incredibly difficult: deserts, mountains, disagreeable indians, etc.... Indeed, for many years, they'd send a resupply ship up the Coast because establishing a 3000 mile overland route was next to impossible.
Look... the routes from Mexico to Tejas ( LOL ) and from the St. Louis to San Francisco were rather easy. But the routes to Southern California were incredibly difficult.
Heck, even Nelson Pass stayed in NorCal... he likely got lost somewhere North of the Grapevine and turned around.
Happy Thanksgiving... yes, we had turkey, yes we had family and yes we had a Homecoming of sorts... my niece brough a box of pictures from the 70s and my wife and her cousins sat up for hours looking at the family, back in Japan and in SoCal.
My daughter and I just watched football. Yep, the Dolphins were idiots... giving up a fieldgoal to try a 4th down and then trying for a two point conversion. I guess the 20F weather in Green Bay must have frozen their minds.
We had a wonderful meal.
Since the very late 1500, Spanish Galleons making the Mexico-Manila route would touch on the shores of California on their return trip ( following the winds ) but they did not settle anything... mostly they likely just wanted some water and perhaps provisions.
Hardly what I would call a colonization...
Portola came to San Diego in 1769. They even reached San Francisco Bay. Father Junipero Serra ( my favorite of them all ) founded the San Diego Mission (San Diego de Alcala ) that year. And in 1770, he founded San Carlos Borromeo in Monterey.
So, not until 1769, and the arrival of Junipero Serra, did Spain start to colonize Alta California.
It's a great story, and for those of us in SoCal a wonderful history. We've done most of the missions and it's a wonderful bit of history.
BUT, the East Coast started to get colonized easily 200 years before Alta California. The overland routes from Mexico to California are incredibly difficult: deserts, mountains, disagreeable indians, etc.... Indeed, for many years, they'd send a resupply ship up the Coast because establishing a 3000 mile overland route was next to impossible.
Look... the routes from Mexico to Tejas ( LOL ) and from the St. Louis to San Francisco were rather easy. But the routes to Southern California were incredibly difficult.
Heck, even Nelson Pass stayed in NorCal... he likely got lost somewhere North of the Grapevine and turned around.
Happy Thanksgiving... yes, we had turkey, yes we had family and yes we had a Homecoming of sorts... my niece brough a box of pictures from the 70s and my wife and her cousins sat up for hours looking at the family, back in Japan and in SoCal.
My daughter and I just watched football. Yep, the Dolphins were idiots... giving up a fieldgoal to try a 4th down and then trying for a two point conversion. I guess the 20F weather in Green Bay must have frozen their minds.
We had a wonderful meal.
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I smoked 3 racks and brought them to our daughter's house because no one who attended really cares for turkey. Served with roasted veggies, mashed taters, mashed sweet potatoes, green beans w/ caramelized onions, pumpkin pies, whipped cream and cinnamon rolls, all served with bubbly and Pinot Noir, a good time was had by all!
I just realized... WTH does this have to do with FR EQ? 🙂
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Amen
Wasn't Vikings first who came to*** what's America now?
Only they didn't care that much about taking it all .......
***though, reminding that's classic case of Western perspective; We from old continent discovered new continent ......... while situation actually was that those living on new continent were just clever not trying to mess with idiots living on old continent ........
anyhow, stupidity just enclosed entire planet
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@tonyEE: You bet for California.
On the other hand, I have lived in Santa Fe NM off and on for the last 20 years. When the pilgrims landed, Santa Fe had been an established city for a decade or so. Colonizers came up overland from Mexico City about every other year in pack trains with military and priests and "governors" appointed from Spain. The route was known as El Camino Real de Tierra Adentro, and the waterless stretch of desert heading north from Las Cruces is still known as Jornada del Muerto in memory of those days.
That's all I was thinking of. My response to Zen Mod got a little carried away... Peace!
Anyway, Happy Thanksgiving and Native American Heritage Day.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled program. Apologies for my role in hijack!
On the other hand, I have lived in Santa Fe NM off and on for the last 20 years. When the pilgrims landed, Santa Fe had been an established city for a decade or so. Colonizers came up overland from Mexico City about every other year in pack trains with military and priests and "governors" appointed from Spain. The route was known as El Camino Real de Tierra Adentro, and the waterless stretch of desert heading north from Las Cruces is still known as Jornada del Muerto in memory of those days.
That's all I was thinking of. My response to Zen Mod got a little carried away... Peace!
Anyway, Happy Thanksgiving and Native American Heritage Day.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled program. Apologies for my role in hijack!
AAhh... ZM is just a guy from somewhere East of the Old Iron Curtain... OK... The Tito Curtain... what does he know about the American Southwest? He likely thinks we're a combination between Eastern Yankees come Westerly, John Wayne, Pancho Villa, Chinese coolies and cowboys.
I think ZM watched too many western spaghetti movies. You know:
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly get a speeding ticket from the CHP on the Hollywood Freeway,
Once Upon A Time On The West We Took The San Diego Freeway During Rush Hour.
For A Few Dollars More I Would Have Broken The Bank in Vegas...
You know... typical Euro reaction to the Modern American West...
Hmm... hold on there pardner, I gotta feed them horsies in the stable...
OK, I'm back....
Come to think about it, ZM has been in Santa Rosa... so I can understand why he thinks Westerners are a combination of Eastern Yankees come Westerly, John Wayne, Pancho Villa, Chinese coolies and cowboys. I'm from SoCal... Sometimes I think Northern Californians are Martians. Where the Hell did they come from? ;^D
The journey from Mexico to New Mexico was easy, as New Mexico is on the eastern start of the Rockies. I watched a documentary once about the history of Tejas. They were discussing how at the beginning of Tejas, they were considering making New Mexico part of the territory. The one guy said that if they had done so, "Tejas would have mountains"... ;-)
I spent some time in Las Cruces in '23 and eons ago travelled along the 40 across towards the 15 and Colorado. It is indeed a beautiful state. I got a radar ticket on the 10 coming back, doing 80 on a 65.... WTH? The cop said the limit was lower across town... WTH? Deming, New Mexico... a city? It's in the middle of the desert!! You can't see it from the freeway, just three exits... At least the ticket was 100 bucks and never showed up on my California driving record.
Oh, I got those boards that Nelson did for equalization... but never got the completer kit.... hmm.... a project...
I think ZM watched too many western spaghetti movies. You know:
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly get a speeding ticket from the CHP on the Hollywood Freeway,
Once Upon A Time On The West We Took The San Diego Freeway During Rush Hour.
For A Few Dollars More I Would Have Broken The Bank in Vegas...
You know... typical Euro reaction to the Modern American West...
Hmm... hold on there pardner, I gotta feed them horsies in the stable...
OK, I'm back....
Come to think about it, ZM has been in Santa Rosa... so I can understand why he thinks Westerners are a combination of Eastern Yankees come Westerly, John Wayne, Pancho Villa, Chinese coolies and cowboys. I'm from SoCal... Sometimes I think Northern Californians are Martians. Where the Hell did they come from? ;^D
The journey from Mexico to New Mexico was easy, as New Mexico is on the eastern start of the Rockies. I watched a documentary once about the history of Tejas. They were discussing how at the beginning of Tejas, they were considering making New Mexico part of the territory. The one guy said that if they had done so, "Tejas would have mountains"... ;-)
I spent some time in Las Cruces in '23 and eons ago travelled along the 40 across towards the 15 and Colorado. It is indeed a beautiful state. I got a radar ticket on the 10 coming back, doing 80 on a 65.... WTH? The cop said the limit was lower across town... WTH? Deming, New Mexico... a city? It's in the middle of the desert!! You can't see it from the freeway, just three exits... At least the ticket was 100 bucks and never showed up on my California driving record.
Oh, I got those boards that Nelson did for equalization... but never got the completer kit.... hmm.... a project...
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there's no such thing as too many, speaking of spaghetti westerns
I don't think that ........ America (that entire patch of land) is too big to have any presumption ......... I've just commented possible historical fact of Vikings actually being first to reach your shores from these (Europe) shores ........ and how each shore have natural right of calling themself Yore Continent; matter of "personal" perspective
I mean .... c'mon - Europeans "discovering" America - ignorant idiots thinking at first they reached India**
and then they conquered
people as species are nothing else than majorly ooked up animal sort
**take in account that - from Yore European perspective "discovering" is not in term of embracing new knowledge/awareness of up to recently unknown entity; it meant finding new territory to grab
Vikings were much more honest in "reach and plunder" economy
But the human discovery of the americas was done by people walking the ice over Bering Strait as I recall. Then a few more immigration waves over the years . Most like the rest of the world. Natural progression.
Came home from celebrating my sons B-day a while ago. Libanese mezes, I’m stuffed!
Did some qobuzing, built some on a new hifi-bench and now went out for a brew and a malt.
A better Saturday, I will call it. Cheers!
Came home from celebrating my sons B-day a while ago. Libanese mezes, I’m stuffed!
Did some qobuzing, built some on a new hifi-bench and now went out for a brew and a malt.
A better Saturday, I will call it. Cheers!
yeah, but ages before anyone started being "organized" in any sort of national or group, thus never being recognized as sorta official:
-Case 1: "Let discover them, then we'll plunder, kill, rape, and go back" (milder case, Norse)
-Case 2: "Let discover them, then we'll conquer, plunder, kill, rape, enslave, and teach non-killed ones about all Civilization values" (more effective case, name them)
ZM can't recall, so being in best case no more than History fan, not even amateur
Well, I think both cases are common in history. I buried a few years on genealogy and dna tracing (don’t do it, it’s very addictive). The European continent, big parts of it, was taken over in waves. Mostly by people more ”highly developed” than the present inhabitants. Herders, farmers etc, people with wheeled carts etc took over hunter/gatherers land. DNA actually shows they slaughtered the males and mated the women. It came in waves, mostly originating from the Ukrainian steppes and thereabouts.
I solved many mysteries during my research but some remains unsolved. One itching mystery is that on the male side (called Y-DNA), my paternal DNA did a peculiar geographical split in the region 600 to 1000 ad. Two brothers started mating and producing male offspring still surviving in straight male lines today. One in West Gothia present Sweden and one in western Scotland.
So what might have happened?
Well, maybe the most plausible is that during the great migration period (Hunns invading from the east etc) they lived in say north Germany/ Denmark maybe. They fled, one ending up in Scotland, one in West Gothia.
Or the one I might like better. A Swedish farmstead produced a few sons and daughters. The oldest son inherited the farm, the other went viking, ended up in West Scotland, started a family and lived on. The elder brother had a son, that had a son… then my father produced me and I my son. For 20-30 generations.
Will I ever know? Probably not. We have an FB group, me and the other offspring of that great great grandfather. We are now mostly living in Sweden or Scotland, but also Australia, US etc (later movements)
So. The myths says the Vikings killed raped pillaged and went home. Maybe so in a few cases. Most of the time they traded, some times they settled. Don’t think they shyed a fight now and then tho. I can feel it in my blood 😉
I solved many mysteries during my research but some remains unsolved. One itching mystery is that on the male side (called Y-DNA), my paternal DNA did a peculiar geographical split in the region 600 to 1000 ad. Two brothers started mating and producing male offspring still surviving in straight male lines today. One in West Gothia present Sweden and one in western Scotland.
So what might have happened?
Well, maybe the most plausible is that during the great migration period (Hunns invading from the east etc) they lived in say north Germany/ Denmark maybe. They fled, one ending up in Scotland, one in West Gothia.
Or the one I might like better. A Swedish farmstead produced a few sons and daughters. The oldest son inherited the farm, the other went viking, ended up in West Scotland, started a family and lived on. The elder brother had a son, that had a son… then my father produced me and I my son. For 20-30 generations.
Will I ever know? Probably not. We have an FB group, me and the other offspring of that great great grandfather. We are now mostly living in Sweden or Scotland, but also Australia, US etc (later movements)
So. The myths says the Vikings killed raped pillaged and went home. Maybe so in a few cases. Most of the time they traded, some times they settled. Don’t think they shyed a fight now and then tho. I can feel it in my blood 😉