The "most powerful" Audio Transistors on today's market - Any experience with these ?

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blocking usually forces the tubes to turn ON too much... the coupling caps "hang" with a less or non negative bias value...
Sorry but no.
Grid rectification clamps the positive half cycle , check that the grid-cathode diode has the cathode directly connected or pointing to ground, while the negative half is unclamped.
The grid coupling cap averages that now unsymmetrical signal that into a negative voltage.

Besides, it can both be :

* seen : the output sinewave "kinks" at 0V (or zero crossing) showing the same shape as a cold (too negative) bias and

* measured: out of curiosity I connected a 1M resistor to the grid (as a separator) and a .1uF cap to ground on the other end.
When idle you measure roughly -bias voltage (the high value 1M resistor causes some loss) which gets more negative when you overdrive the amp.

Those mods which add a Zener and some extra parts to avoid that, are missing the point, in my view of course.
 
Just stumbled onto this thread and I have to ask, did anyone look at the data sheet?
For MG9413K this is what I read off the SOA Figure:
30V * 9A = 270W
50V * 5A = 250W
100 * 2.7A = 270W

These are not in any way 400W devices.
One member here posted that they would do 8A at 100V for 100 ms, NO that is the 10mS figure.

Given the thermal resistance I'm going to guess that they beat their spec, but the spec
does not support the claim of 400W.

Are these still available?
 
Hey Pete,

I briefly glanced at the datasheet. I do not know how they can make that claim either. I did not do the math as you did.
I see that they seem to be available
Semelab - MG9413 - Transistor Audio PNP 260V/30A/400W TO264 - Allied Electronics
newark shows the MAG9412W but not the complement

If you do your analysis criteria, neither does a Onsemi MJW3281 meet its 200W rating with the 100ms or 1 Second curve.

Are you saying that they have to use a pulsed test to meet the MJW3281 spec? 1 sec is pretty good
sure DC would be better.
But if you follow the 15A flat part it does go out to about 13.3V making 200W, then also at
50V it does 4A also for 200W which is the end of the constant power slope, then SOA
issues take over and they are less than 200W. This is pretty normal.
I'm not sure why or when they went to a 1 sec test but not all their parts are rated this way.

Thanks for the tip about Allied. I might consider these in TO3 but not finding any.
 
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