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Hey Jase!
Did you ever get your set? Speaking of which, anybody else receive yours yet? I realize the holidays have just ended. I am still recouperating. Maybe a few more days.
What have you tried with solid silver? How many conductors? When I get back to Thailand, I'm going to do some tinkering. Got some ideas that need to be proven good!
Frank
Did you ever get your set? Speaking of which, anybody else receive yours yet? I realize the holidays have just ended. I am still recouperating. Maybe a few more days.
What have you tried with solid silver? How many conductors? When I get back to Thailand, I'm going to do some tinkering. Got some ideas that need to be proven good!
Frank
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Solid silver is harder to weave / braid, its very tough and not flex able at all, add 10 strands and well, it would be not flexible like the ones you have.
Nope cables haven't arrived.
Just signed a contract with Neutrik tho 🙂 Lots Of Connectors On the way 🙂
I sent them snail mail, sorry. Cheapest way possible was still about $7. Should arrive any day. Defrost before use...
Nice deal with Neutrik.
Nice deal with Neutrik.
You need to use the pure "dead soft" spec silver it is actually softer than most solid copper if the silver you are using is not bendable it is not pure,or it has been anealed neither is desirable. Check out Hoover & Strong they sell fine silver at market price. Good stuff
Sounds good. Definately check it out. I have an idea kicking around in my head that involves something like solid-core speaker cables with a hallow center. Could be interesting...
Hi Frank,
I'm anxious to hear the cables, but I haven't heard from you... Should I give you my mailing address? 😀
Cheers, and Happy New Year!
-Joe
I'm anxious to hear the cables, but I haven't heard from you... Should I give you my mailing address? 😀
Cheers, and Happy New Year!
-Joe
How about black&blue with a silver stripe where white is now. or different shades of the same color,subtle yet classey.
brown,rust,red,orange and yellow would be nice.
That's your call, personaly I prefer the $80 as listed on your web site,but you must consider your audience this is diyAudio.
colors,wire grade options ,looks to be standard mill grade wire.
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Hi Joe!
Back in Ithaca. Will call you tomorrow to see when is good for me to meet with you. Happy New Year.
Frank
PS When is a good time to call you?
Back in Ithaca. Will call you tomorrow to see when is good for me to meet with you. Happy New Year.
Frank
PS When is a good time to call you?
Ok. Since they haven't hit the market yet, I suppose I see about the costs.
Anyhow, for diyaudio members, I offered a discount. I now have to go back and see how much the discount was.
With increase in quality comes an increase in price. Trying to keep them realistically cheap but still good quality.
Frank
Anyhow, for diyaudio members, I offered a discount. I now have to go back and see how much the discount was.
With increase in quality comes an increase in price. Trying to keep them realistically cheap but still good quality.
Frank
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You can still get decent RCA connectors for good price, you just have to talk to the vendor of the products that you are going to use. Buy a good quantity, and yeah. 🙂
J'
Hello Frank,
maybe you misunderstood my post I was not trying to hagle you for a good deal ,just answering your questions from post #38 and by the way that pricing is on your web site.
as for the quality,I was not trying to slight your cables in the least,It's a good cable,I could not agree with you more on keeping the cost down,I was suggesting different models,with this being your entry level product.
No I haven't!! I suspect they're being lazy during christmas time... at best 🙁
I don't dislike solid silver! I have had a couple of those interconnects and they sounded good. But I do find a good old coaxial copper cable to sound more natural, more fleshy and tonally more truthful. I could say the same about a 30cm long Audioquest Lapis (solid silver, but shielded) I had a few years ago. Silver has its strong points but it's not the best conductor overall. I prefer silver plated copper, as I like the tonality and roundness of copper.
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I am no good in describing sound, but I will try telling my impression after a couple 2 hours listening sessions from last night and tonight.
I played with the following equipment:
sources - Buffalo 24 DAC and Jolida JD-100 CD player
Mars IC are used to connect the above sources to the pre below
preamp - Tube line pre based on Allen Wright's FVP5A line stage.
Amps - Mini-Aleph, TAD-1000 PPP KT88 monblocks.
Speakers - Dahlquist 3 ways, Carver AL-III+.
First of all, the construction. The braiding method is amazing. I actually spent a good 15 mins to try figuring how that was done, but I failed 😱
After a total of 4 hours of listening sessions, I found the Mars have very clear mid high, maybe that's the "sparkle" that igwt felt. I compared the Mars to 2 similar IC's that are in the same price range - Audio Art and DH Lab silver plated IC. The Mars is definitely more pronounced in the mid-high range but seem to a bit shy on the low end - just by comparison to the other competitors, not lack.
When I used the Mars with the Buffalo + FVP5A + Mini-A + Dahlquist, there was a touch of sibilance; however, when it is used in the all tube combo and the carver ribbon, the sound was simply sweet.
Based on 4 hours of audition, the Mars competes well to other IC's in the same price range. One area that can improve is the RCA jack. I personally don't think I can hear any difference between a higher quality (spell higher price) RCA jack and the current one; however, they do look and feel inferior to the others. To many people, a $90/pair IC is still quite substantial. Most probably expects the RCA jack to be in better look and feel. All in all, the Mars is a very competitive IC.
I played with the following equipment:
sources - Buffalo 24 DAC and Jolida JD-100 CD player
Mars IC are used to connect the above sources to the pre below
preamp - Tube line pre based on Allen Wright's FVP5A line stage.
Amps - Mini-Aleph, TAD-1000 PPP KT88 monblocks.
Speakers - Dahlquist 3 ways, Carver AL-III+.
First of all, the construction. The braiding method is amazing. I actually spent a good 15 mins to try figuring how that was done, but I failed 😱
After a total of 4 hours of listening sessions, I found the Mars have very clear mid high, maybe that's the "sparkle" that igwt felt. I compared the Mars to 2 similar IC's that are in the same price range - Audio Art and DH Lab silver plated IC. The Mars is definitely more pronounced in the mid-high range but seem to a bit shy on the low end - just by comparison to the other competitors, not lack.
When I used the Mars with the Buffalo + FVP5A + Mini-A + Dahlquist, there was a touch of sibilance; however, when it is used in the all tube combo and the carver ribbon, the sound was simply sweet.
Based on 4 hours of audition, the Mars competes well to other IC's in the same price range. One area that can improve is the RCA jack. I personally don't think I can hear any difference between a higher quality (spell higher price) RCA jack and the current one; however, they do look and feel inferior to the others. To many people, a $90/pair IC is still quite substantial. Most probably expects the RCA jack to be in better look and feel. All in all, the Mars is a very competitive IC.
Hi Fred,
Glad you got them and your review was well put. I personally don't like how far the heat shrink goes up on the RCA plugs. Still trying different RCA plugs. Biggest problem finding them are ones that are able to handle 10 conductors without major surgery. Until I find a better one (durable, able to handle 10 or more conductors with ease, and well constructed), the Neutrik will have to do for now.
Look forward to see if burning helps at all with the low range. Thanks again for the input!! It is much appreciated!!
Hang in the Andrea!! They'll show up soon!!
Joe, call you around 5pm tonight!!
igwt. No offense taken at all. Just happy to hear any an all input. You are absolutely right though, these are to be our low end and once we've established a better brand confidence, then come out with mid to higher end with better materials.
I am learning so much from everyone's input and look forward to more!
Frank
Glad you got them and your review was well put. I personally don't like how far the heat shrink goes up on the RCA plugs. Still trying different RCA plugs. Biggest problem finding them are ones that are able to handle 10 conductors without major surgery. Until I find a better one (durable, able to handle 10 or more conductors with ease, and well constructed), the Neutrik will have to do for now.
Look forward to see if burning helps at all with the low range. Thanks again for the input!! It is much appreciated!!
Hang in the Andrea!! They'll show up soon!!
Joe, call you around 5pm tonight!!
igwt. No offense taken at all. Just happy to hear any an all input. You are absolutely right though, these are to be our low end and once we've established a better brand confidence, then come out with mid to higher end with better materials.
I am learning so much from everyone's input and look forward to more!
Frank
Guess if Andrea has not been forgotten, other Europeans will eventually be remembered as well 😀.
Cheers,
D.
Cheers,
D.
Hello all you Europeans and Asians.
I have not forgotten you! Will be getting back to Bangkok before I start the Euro/Asian demos. Only brought a limited number with me to the states and shipping will be cheaper from Bangkok! Happy New Year and have already started the list for Europe and Asia and you are the first!
Frank
I have not forgotten you! Will be getting back to Bangkok before I start the Euro/Asian demos. Only brought a limited number with me to the states and shipping will be cheaper from Bangkok! Happy New Year and have already started the list for Europe and Asia and you are the first!
Frank
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