The Dayton point-source and wide-range drivers

[planet10]

but not much different either.

Not really.

dave

 

[luigi]

Was going by memory as I no longer have Alpair 10.3s but I recall they had a bit more high freq output than the paper coned 10s. The latter are a bit more laid back as a result and some may feel they need tweeter assistance. I’ve sometimes used Dayton AMTs with them.

 

[zman01]

Actually the Alpair 10P and 10.3 sound quite different.

- The Alpair 10P midrange is smoother and more prominent, and the HF output is softer/less vs the 10.3. Some folks find the Alpair 10P slightly soft and recessed.

- The Alpair 10.3 treble is more extended, and sounds brighter vs the 10P.

No experience with the TB W5-2143, but read that it is a good sounding driver.

p.s. looks like luigi and I cross posted.

 

[luigi]

It really is a great driver, especially for the price.
I sold my Alpair 10.3s not long after getting the W5-2143s and while I muss and fuss with other full rangers the TB is my go-to transducer for mains.
I guess there are probly better full range drivers out there, especially if price no object, but this one ticks most of the boxes, and represents amazing value to my mind.

 

[Ceekay]

I'm currently using a pair of these BG 13 P - 8 Ohm | Visaton in a simple open baffle on top of a 2x10" H frame bass "cabinet".

Not the smoothest driver but with suitable music they're not bad for £12 each, I've used a first order high pass at around 400 Hz with the H frame rolling off around 200 Hz.

Sensitivity must be about 90+ db/watt as I'm getting substantial levels in a 7 m x 4 m room with a 30 WPC integrated.

 

[woodo]

PS180 should also play well in GregB's Karlsonator6 which is tuned to ~60Hz.

Just started educating myself about this topology. Do you have a link to the K6? I previously shied away from cutting angles except the 90 degree one 😀 (K speakers look to have a few) but recently played a bit with my circular saw and can get the angles okay with a bit of trial and error on some scrap.

 

[luigi]

Or you can just make them out of foamboard 1cm and use a scalpel-type knife; makes it much easier and you can get a v good idea of the sound quality (I'm not bothering to try to take this any further with wood!).
I never thought I would do anything other than 90 degree angles either...until I did. Foamboard building is good fun. And no dust either.

 

[woodo]

Good idea. Worth following up.

 

[luigi]

Here's how my first effort came out. Be sure to follow XRK970's how-to instructions; or at least read through them before commencing and you will avoid lots of little pitfalls.
Im onto my second pair now, using firm foam this time, 1.2cm.

 

[xrk971]

One nice thing about a Karlson aperture speaker is that it tends to tame drivers with hot highs or mids. The Dayton 6.5in PS might be a good candidate for an XKi or Karlsonator or a scaled down K15 if 90Hz bass is enough for you.

 

[robmusk]

That has been my experience with the ps180 in a Karlsonator