Well, it started with me wanting more workspace when working, so I could have all the little knobs and levels visible and have room for midi and audio files, synths +++
1080 does not work for that, and I don't like having a ton of small monitors around. 4k at 60hz feels laggy to me, 120hz feels a lot smoother.
And about the gaming bit, it's fun, and I gotta keep up with the kids 😀
1080 does not work for that, and I don't like having a ton of small monitors around. 4k at 60hz feels laggy to me, 120hz feels a lot smoother.
And about the gaming bit, it's fun, and I gotta keep up with the kids 😀
That's quite a rig you got there. Who's the driver on top of those big speakers? Fane? Was the "screen" behind the TV for the projectors you were trying out?
Anyone else that felt the urge to buy an Apple Mac Mini 2020 with M1 CPU? I already had bought a fast Dell computer as I got dissatisfied with Apple and the day I sold my old Mac Mini unexpectedly the new M1 (ARM!) model came out. As it turns out Apple developed their own CPU and is ready to leave x86 architecture. Being fond of the more efficient ARM architecture for audio/video devices I decided to buy one as early adopter and boy what a revolution this is!
Baked at 5 nm technique, 16 billion transistors and 3.2 GHz ARM octocore CPU, low power consumption, small & SILENT .... It blows away any Intel I have in my home. It is so fast (and at the same time it is also the slowest as it is the first of a series) that I think Windows 10 will be ported to ARM and maybe the game industry will develop for ARM too. Videocard is fast too but not that important for me as I am no gamer.
Negative sides too: it is completely NOT upgradable with regards to RAM and SSD. Even stronger than normal tedious Apple vendor lockin. When the SSD or RAM fails the complete logic board (motherboard) should be replaced. These may seem no dealbreakers in this day and age but for this price it is a pity that when failure occurs after 2 years one has to buy a new one.
Baked at 5 nm technique, 16 billion transistors and 3.2 GHz ARM octocore CPU, low power consumption, small & SILENT .... It blows away any Intel I have in my home. It is so fast (and at the same time it is also the slowest as it is the first of a series) that I think Windows 10 will be ported to ARM and maybe the game industry will develop for ARM too. Videocard is fast too but not that important for me as I am no gamer.
Negative sides too: it is completely NOT upgradable with regards to RAM and SSD. Even stronger than normal tedious Apple vendor lockin. When the SSD or RAM fails the complete logic board (motherboard) should be replaced. These may seem no dealbreakers in this day and age but for this price it is a pity that when failure occurs after 2 years one has to buy a new one.
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M1 being the first of a series can only mean a promising new start for ARM architecture. Not a single wellknown CPU manufacturer launched such an impressive first CPU and this against the way more experienced Intel and AMD .... As long as Apple does not sell these to others there is not a real issue but when ARM in general is embraced by the desktop/game industry things might change rapidly. There have been quite a few efficient RISC architecture CPU's in the past (DEC Alpha anyone?) but x86 won the game then despite being not the most efficient platform. VCC/Betamax/VHS alike... It would/could also mean an end to old/legacy x86 code in existing OSes and thus finally an end to backwards compatibility. Speculative yes... but also interesting developments in these sad times.
Apparently Windows 10 ARM runs on the Apple M1 which might explain the already available Bootcamp icon...
Microsoft’s Latest Windows 10 Win Comes From An Unlikely Source... Apple
Apparently Windows 10 ARM runs on the Apple M1 which might explain the already available Bootcamp icon...
Microsoft’s Latest Windows 10 Win Comes From An Unlikely Source... Apple
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I remember that Alpha engineer moved to Amd and built the first Athlon/Duron cpu, I was studying computer engineering back then .
Very impressed by the m1 benchmarks results and of course about the smaller amount of power needed . Dont think these chips will be found in other than Apple computers. The only reason I did not jumped on one of the m1 laptop/mini is because I’ll wait for the new MacBook Pro 16 inch laptop.
Very impressed by the m1 benchmarks results and of course about the smaller amount of power needed . Dont think these chips will be found in other than Apple computers. The only reason I did not jumped on one of the m1 laptop/mini is because I’ll wait for the new MacBook Pro 16 inch laptop.
Just thought of the DEC Alpha CPU that had a cooler the size of a moped cylinder head 🙂 Special RAM needed, finally installed Windows NT 4.0 only to discover most existing programs gave error messages "this program is not intended for this type of processor". This is what I feared when buying the M1.... most Intel apps not working but they do work OK in fast emulation.
Yes the compatibility issues are another reason I will wait for a few good months before buying m1 devices. No boot camp for sure , that’s a bummer .
As mentioned: Boot camp is there.... but it gives error messages that the CPU is not Intel (it is probably waiting for W10 ARM...). No compatibility issues here till now which was absolutely not expected. I really thought the change to be so big that things would not work out OK the first months.
In fact I thought this would be my first Mac with real early adopter issues from the start but no. I do see some video artifacts when it boots and in sleep I hear some noises in the audio. In operation it works just OK. Please note that I am no Apple fanboy so I am quite critical regardless of brand/marketing etc.
In hindsight and despite press stories I would advise to choose a 16 gb RAM version though.
In fact I thought this would be my first Mac with real early adopter issues from the start but no. I do see some video artifacts when it boots and in sleep I hear some noises in the audio. In operation it works just OK. Please note that I am no Apple fanboy so I am quite critical regardless of brand/marketing etc.
In hindsight and despite press stories I would advise to choose a 16 gb RAM version though.
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Yes, I also think new architecture is important to make changes to more efficient processors.
X86 is ready for replacement.
But I really do not like Apple. Not going to buy a single product from them.
X86 is ready for replacement.
But I really do not like Apple. Not going to buy a single product from them.
Hi I understand the feeling but some of the products are outstanding. Love hate relationship really 🙂
I like Windows 10 but MacOS is just that tad more user friendly. The vendor lock in with Apple hardware is terrible.
I like Windows 10 but MacOS is just that tad more user friendly. The vendor lock in with Apple hardware is terrible.
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What you guys think ? I've been asked more and more recently to do some light video editing/rendering and I'm wondering about upgrade paths.
My current PC is based on a i5-4670K, 8gb of pc3-12800, a RX570 8gb and a pair of ssd. Very nice for most applications but not really smooth in hitfilm express.
I was considering the following build :
- ASUS TUF B450-PLUS Gaming II ATX motherboard
- amd ryzen 5 3600
- Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16
- Western Digital SN550 high performance M.2 PCIe NVME 1TO
Reusing the RX570 and adding a 500W Be Quiet PSU as well as a Corsair 200R case, it's about 685€ from amazon.de. Is it worth it ?
My current PC is based on a i5-4670K, 8gb of pc3-12800, a RX570 8gb and a pair of ssd. Very nice for most applications but not really smooth in hitfilm express.
I was considering the following build :
- ASUS TUF B450-PLUS Gaming II ATX motherboard
- amd ryzen 5 3600
- Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16
- Western Digital SN550 high performance M.2 PCIe NVME 1TO
Reusing the RX570 and adding a 500W Be Quiet PSU as well as a Corsair 200R case, it's about 685€ from amazon.de. Is it worth it ?
Unless that motherboard has features you really need/want, you could save some money buy buying the Asus Prime B450M-A. I am running a R5 3600 on this board and I have zero regrets. My benchmarks all meet or exceed benchmarks shown from boards that are 2 to 3 times as expensive.
Also, Hitfilm Express system RAM requirements are "4GB (8 GB Recommended)" so I would say 16GB is more than enough, unless you plan on multitasking with other very high RAM usage applications.
These two changes would drop your system price by maybe a couple hundred euro (?) and the video editing performance would be virtually identical.
Do you monitor system resources while using the application? If not, maybe give it a try and see if you can figure out where your current system is bottlenecked. CPU? storage? That way you know how to best spend your money.
One thing I do recommend is to install an aftermarket cooler on the R5 3600. The included one is only barely sufficient and will typically result in thermal throttling. You don't need to go crazy. Two very good budget options are the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 and the Deepcool Gammaxx 400. Buy whichever one is the better deal, because performance is nearly identical and they are both far superior to the included AMD cooler. My R5 3600 can maintain max boost clocks indefinitely with the Gammaxx 400 on it (and properly applied, quality TIM).
A good comparison of the two coolers - Deepcool Gammaxx 400 vs Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED Which To Choose? - YouTube
Also, Hitfilm Express system RAM requirements are "4GB (8 GB Recommended)" so I would say 16GB is more than enough, unless you plan on multitasking with other very high RAM usage applications.
These two changes would drop your system price by maybe a couple hundred euro (?) and the video editing performance would be virtually identical.
Do you monitor system resources while using the application? If not, maybe give it a try and see if you can figure out where your current system is bottlenecked. CPU? storage? That way you know how to best spend your money.
One thing I do recommend is to install an aftermarket cooler on the R5 3600. The included one is only barely sufficient and will typically result in thermal throttling. You don't need to go crazy. Two very good budget options are the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 and the Deepcool Gammaxx 400. Buy whichever one is the better deal, because performance is nearly identical and they are both far superior to the included AMD cooler. My R5 3600 can maintain max boost clocks indefinitely with the Gammaxx 400 on it (and properly applied, quality TIM).
A good comparison of the two coolers - Deepcool Gammaxx 400 vs Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED Which To Choose? - YouTube
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In the last year I built for my boys 2 gaming computers , one is AMD x3700 with x370 chipset and the other one is i7 10700 with z490 chipset, both 32gb ram 2tb ssd and nvidia2060 super graphic cards, 27 inch ips 144hz monitors . Intel system has aftermarket cooler but the amd has the amd wraith cooler (which for my surprise very efficient).
The intel system feels better, smoother, more stable .
In your case, I would buy the better motherboard you could afford , your last cpu was i5 4670k so you might buy computer parts again not sooner than 5 years from now . Buy the best you can afford. How is your monitor?
In the last year I built for my boys 2 gaming computers , one is AMD x3700 with x370 chipset and the other one is i7 10700 with z490 chipset, both 32gb ram 2tb ssd and nvidia2060 super graphic cards, 27 inch ips 144hz monitors . Intel system has aftermarket cooler but the amd has the amd wraith cooler (which for my surprise very efficient).
The intel system feels better, smoother, more stable .
In your case, I would buy the better motherboard you could afford , your last cpu was i5 4670k so you might buy computer parts again not sooner than 5 years from now . Buy the best you can afford. How is your monitor?
@cogitech: thanks for the suggestions.
- There is only a 30€ difference between the two motherboards. I've got a preference for full size ATX if I can and there are some features I like on the TUF one.
- I've ran some more tests. I heavily stress the CPU but I guess I could do with 16gb of ram. I can always add two more sticks later if need be. Going to 2*8gb will save about 60€. And 3600mhz is weirdly cheaper than 3200mhz.
- Thanks for the notice on the coolers. Both are about 35€ here.
@asuslover: good points. I'm using a 24" dell Ultrasharp, u2417h (re-calibrated for photo work). Slowly saving up for a u2719D.
- There is only a 30€ difference between the two motherboards. I've got a preference for full size ATX if I can and there are some features I like on the TUF one.
- I've ran some more tests. I heavily stress the CPU but I guess I could do with 16gb of ram. I can always add two more sticks later if need be. Going to 2*8gb will save about 60€. And 3600mhz is weirdly cheaper than 3200mhz.
- Thanks for the notice on the coolers. Both are about 35€ here.
@asuslover: good points. I'm using a 24" dell Ultrasharp, u2417h (re-calibrated for photo work). Slowly saving up for a u2719D.
00940,
Some interesting discussion about importance of CPU cores, GPU etc. in Hitfilm here Max Cores/Threads? — FXhome Community
Might be worth considering before deciding what to upgrade. It seems a lot of CGI/effects are GPU-bound, whereas the decode/encode is CPU-bound.
Some interesting discussion about importance of CPU cores, GPU etc. in Hitfilm here Max Cores/Threads? — FXhome Community
Might be worth considering before deciding what to upgrade. It seems a lot of CGI/effects are GPU-bound, whereas the decode/encode is CPU-bound.
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My 10 year old daughter has been complaining that her computer stopped working...
After a bit of troubleshooting it seems the motherboard has given up the ghost. A bit of thorough investigation reveals I can manage to just buy another motherboard and CPU since I have or can repurpose all the other parts needed.
The bad thing is that there's a serious lack of inventory, and I do not want to purchase anything less than the AMD 3300X... sooo... Seeing that I have a R5 3600 on this computer I don't want to buy another one of those. Most other things are out of stock except some 2 core Athlon 3000G or the 5800X.
... Just ordered the 5800X, she can have my R5 3600.
My 10 year old daughter has been complaining that her computer stopped working...
After a bit of troubleshooting it seems the motherboard has given up the ghost. A bit of thorough investigation reveals I can manage to just buy another motherboard and CPU since I have or can repurpose all the other parts needed.
The bad thing is that there's a serious lack of inventory, and I do not want to purchase anything less than the AMD 3300X... sooo... Seeing that I have a R5 3600 on this computer I don't want to buy another one of those. Most other things are out of stock except some 2 core Athlon 3000G or the 5800X.
... Just ordered the 5800X, she can have my R5 3600.