I have no issue with people preferring a bit of distortion, sometimes it can make things sound clearer, this should come as no surprise to you.
With Windows one has to be very careful, but all three files most likely should have been equally messed up if Windows were responsible. Maybe not though. ASIO drivers and an app that can be configured to use ASIO are a must, IMHO. Foobar can be used with the optional ASIO component. Also, make sure the DAC does not have any green check next to it in the Windows Control Panel sound settings. See screenshot below for where to look for green check mark. To get rid of the green check symbol, there must be at least one extra sound device that can be set to the default sound device and to the default communications device.
Regarding reports of files sounding different, could be there is some ultrasonic content in the first file that some reproduction systems don't like. Might or might not vary with dac filter settings. One could try other systems, other dacs, other filters, etc., to see what if anything causes a change in symptoms.
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Whaat?
1) 88.2kHz is one of the standard sampling frequencies used throughout the audio industry.
2) The file Hans used was derived from original, which was recorded as DXD i.e. at 352.8kHz / 24bits (see 2L web page).
3) 352.8 is multiple of 88.2. Sample rate conversion to some other, non integer Fs is not optimal. It is SRC 101.
This all kindly verifies my original assumption that one must dial their system specifically as they use it, and introducing changes/variables might not come across in the same fashion.
For example,my main system doesn’t sound as good when I use the Apple airplay for tidal vs the straight tidal app.
For example,my main system doesn’t sound as good when I use the Apple airplay for tidal vs the straight tidal app.
Wait a minute......back the bus up!
Hans distorted the original file? (File A) Maybe that’s what the problem is.
And both Richard and I found file A to be the worst.
I am too old. I can hear changes to files based only on 20KHz filtering. Thats up to someone else now. But distortion I can hear.
So, I'll try a better system. I would like to know if it sounds better (A).
But, its still shows the variability amongst listeners. All over the map.
What is RealTek stereo MIX mode? Immediate mode? 24/48K ?
Not checked is "let appl take exclusive control of this device? Give exclusive mode appl priority?
I'll have to try different settings.
Thx-RNMarsh
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No. File A was distorted to make file B and file B was distorted to make file C. this is a wider use of 'distortion' beyond EE terminology of course.
Ahhh.....got it
You could understand my confusion “well Hans distorted the original file and you preferred that, so yes...”
You could understand my confusion “well Hans distorted the original file and you preferred that, so yes...”
He "distorted" the original file to produce B & C....
A great test. Shows what basically can't be heard, and produces some amusing excuses...
edit - *sigh* in the time it took me to type this, it's already been dealt with!
A great test. Shows what basically can't be heard, and produces some amusing excuses...
edit - *sigh* in the time it took me to type this, it's already been dealt with!
Happens pretty much every time there is a challenge like this. Should be more of it.
Where is Pavel these days? I recall one of his tests where some of the usual suspects were pontificating about the differences between two files that happened to be identical. Most entertaining.
Si.... I am thinking PRO... 24/96. My Crowns take 24/96 etc.
Not that 88 hasnt been used. I would not down load files that are 88. i would 96 because it is compatible with the kind of gear I buy.
I will try other than this funky computer then. BTW __ does anyone know if my computer is set to 48K and i put in 88... what happens? I just changed it to 88 and will listen again.
No. In my system I hear distortions.
THx-RNMarsh
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I wish I shared your sense of humor here, they've been dismaying, if not entirely predictable. Roll the rock back up the hill.
Just fill "normal rez" out sideways and downwards with random nicely tailored noise and everyone will be happy. We don't even have to distribute it - just a new feature in a DAC chip. (See MQA ;-))
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This was exactly how my session unfolded also. In the end I could not honestly say that I had a preference. So I voted equal.
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