Conclusion is simple: some hear things that others don’t.
So what’s the big deal, I couldn’t care less.
I’m just happy for both.

My friend asked me what the function of bass and treble pontensio. He adjusted the bass and treble and said, "There are sound same."
People are different. I'm happy to be different 😀
We're on the same page Bob but someone asked what the best wire is, not if a wire can correct concerns with the system.I’ll go to my grave believing the differences I hear between components and changes in sound from simple swaps like wire lcr that can be used as a fine tuning tool.
As I said I was speaking to the provided example where there is no assumption that the amplifier's performance varies with load. The possibility exists that there are amplifiers that are not effected, the article did not survey enough amplifiers to make any conclusions.
I absolutely agree that the article (the example) can't be generalized, but otoh you can't take it for granted that the measured distortion at the output of the amplifier in your example is the same after exchanging the cables.
This discussion can go on forever without any progress.
Conclusion is simple: some hear things that others don’t.
So what’s the big deal, I couldn’t care less.
I’m just happy for both.
Hans
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Yes, only you are confused again, load resistance and wire resistance are two different things. And the current flows through them the same i.e. common.
But, he use super conductor for the wire. 😀
Jacob, thanks again for the article. There are other chapters where they describe the topic of amplifiers in some detail, too. In studio monitoring, the current can reach up to 100A.I absolutely agree that the article (the example) can't be generalized, but otoh you can't take it for granted that the measured distortion at the output of the amplifier in your example is the same after exchanging the cables.
However, they used Class A amplifiers for high-frequency horn compression drivers. It was also said that for proper signal reproduction, there should be a linear phase, the errors of which are accumulated from each component to the component all the time. In total, the phase margin of the amplifier should be at least 2 octaves above and 2 octaves below the maximum sensitivity to phase distortion at medium frequencies. All this will also impose stricter cable requirements, too.
Alexander Voishvillo now works at JBL PRO; this is the concentric driver of his development used in studio three-way monitors JBL M2.
This discussion has new information that is otherwise difficult to see or find. For example, all my assumptions were confirmed, even regarding the use of shielded cables, and, as I am conducting similar developments, it was very useful for me to find out this information in order to move on. But it’s always nice to realize that my ears didn’t let me down either.
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Could you please translate this in English because my Google translate gave up.In total, the phase margin of the amplifier should be at least 2 octaves above and 2 octaves below the maximum sensitivity to phase distortion at medium frequencies. All this will also impose stricter cable requirements, too.
Hans
Your Google apparently never worked. Jacob provided a link to an article in English.Could you please translate this in English because my Google translate gave up.
Hans
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The possibility exists that there are amplifiers that are not effected, the article did not survey enough amplifiers to make any conclusions.
Anyone brave to make those measurement with some amplifiers and some cables?
I think, no one care 😀
(Keep writing, do nothing).
John, I also had just such an experience. I even tried to put resistors from different manufacturers. Chinese white cement sheathed wire resistors were the worst. Most likely, the resistors in the emitters of the transistors in the output stage will also affect.I, for example found that a 3.3ohm resistor placed in series with a 4 ohm loudspeaker (AR-1) back in 1963, made the sound better.
At least it was not from me. Please show me a quote.
Even non-linear current through a line resistor always causes a voltage drop. And according to Ohm's law, this voltage drop will be non-linear.
I hope to get the point across this time. Non-linear current has no meaning as such, so let me redefine it into 'alternating current'. Obviously, the voltage drop will be different on....................why do I even bother.
So, this raises an important, if not critical, question: How do we know if cable A is "better" or "worse" than cable B?
By taking measurements, this is not rocket science.
Ah, but he put quotes around better 😉 IIRC, he also asked which was more accurate, now at least that has some meaning.
And being england it's raining 🙂Hug to all - it's midsummer!! :-D
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When was the last time an audiophile stumbled across an effect by tweaking that was not already know by engineers or easily explained?Not so fast, Ed. I am now trying out a $3300 power cord. And by the way, almost all wires sound different, some are too bright, etc, etc. What is wrong with you guys? Never try different wires for audio connections? '-)
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