The Audio Infidel thread Audiophile Components For Pennies

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nezbleu said:
So this thread is about "things to buy" not "things to build"?
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One of the key points of DIY is economy, the other is getting a better product. If I were building great highly efficient speakers I would be pretty happy to know for example that a little triangle DAC/Amp from Creative Audio for a small amount of money has state of the art specs and I have no need whatsoever of wasting my money on psuedo high end garbage to support my state of the art speakers.. Eliminates all the variables lets me concentrate on speaker/xover (the *only* possible place for audible improvement) and hopefully puts at least a few pin pricks in the snake oil bunch. Those pin pricks add up and eventually there are no more pricks (needed)
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billshurv said:
I still can't work out if this is a serious thread or someone in a lab has created an AI based on the combined posts of 2 or 3 people on the forum. So many confusing assumptions make me suggest this is not an attempt at a serious thread, but as ever hope to be wrong.

But clearly as long as it comes from the 'pro' catalogue its transparent.
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Oddly, after a life sentence producing mixing mastering recordings and using and reviewing pro gear, having bought houses airplanes and divorces with the fruit of these labors I admit I do feel semi-qualified to make the "transparent" judgment, especially when my own observations are backed with numbers like .000000000blah distortion fr of 0 to (insert that new prime number here) and -120(blah blah) converters. Silly me.
 
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billshurv said:
OK. I apologise for any aspersions cast, but your scattergunning of threads including doubling up of this one did raise a concern that needed addressing. Now addressed 🙂
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Bill--to be fair, it took me a bit of reading to parse Peletoni's well-intentioned, but rather scattershot, litany of posts.

Nezbleu--I'd comfortably argue that not *too* many of us are designing our own DACs. (Pre)amps, speakers, computer-based DSP systems, yes. But DACs it tends to be kits or COTS.
 
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Then you did not read the site, because ELAC is a German company and they are re-introducing ELAC to the Americas. Also, Andrew Jones seems to be English.

Frankly, I don't know where you're coming off and why I'm bothering to justify what I posted.
 
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vdi_nenna said:
Then you did not read the site, because ELAC is a German company and they are re-introducing ELAC to the Americas. Also, Andrew Jones seems to be English.

Frankly, I don't know where you're coming off and why I'm bothering to justify what I posted.
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I read it more as humorous irony, and it made me smirk as result. Irribeo tends to be very sensible/grounded in his writing and design philosophy, so I'd be personally very surprised if he *really* meant that.
 
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Derfnofred said:
Bill--to be fair, it took me a bit of reading to parse Peletoni's well-intentioned, but rather scattershot, litany of posts.

Nezbleu--I'd comfortably argue that not *too* many of us are designing our own DACs. (Pre)amps, speakers, computer-based DSP systems, yes. But DACs it tends to be kits or COTS.
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I do (rightly I think) assume a well above average intellect here, so I tend to paint with broad strokes. Sorry.
 
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No apologies needed. On the other point. I am all for improving specs to infinity. What I will do and always have done is point our when some ideal audiophile gear becomes available at a ridiculous price. Of course this tends to devalue our super duper whatever. Tough. You can't change the truth in the slightest way as Johnny Cash used to say.
 
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vdi_nenna said:
I haven't heard them, but have it from a good source who has and says they are a game changer.

Designed by Andrew Jones, who has designed for TAD and Pioneer. I believe TAD was Pioneer's version of the Skunk Works.

$250 for speakers with driver created specially for the speaker design.
Not too shabby.

Welcome to ELAC AmericasELAC North America. The life of sound.
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Good find probably withing a few percent as nice direct radiating conventional speakers be.
Full disclosure I have not personally met a non horn loaded speaker that would (for mastering purposes) reveal low level harmonic distortion or reverb tails yet. They must exist. I would bet they will have super expensive and super efficient drivers if they do exist.
 
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peteleoni said:
I do (rightly I think) assume a well above average intellect here, so I tend to paint with broad strokes. Sorry.
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No, that wasn't the issue and I agree about the above-average intellect (or, at the least, desire to use the intellect one has!), but rather that you would make your points clearer by giving just a bit more background into where you're coming from philosophically. It's more that you jump into your topic having already spent a good deal of time digesting it without bringing us along with the context of how you've come to where you are at now.

As I said, certainly well-intentioned, and, once we get some context out of you, pretty well thought out. It just might help to lead in with a few more sentences framing your thoughts out a bit better. (Trying to be helpful, and not with the least bit of derision!)
 
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rdf said:
Details? It's been quite a while since I did the exercise but the initial crop of Rodes, Studio Projects, etc. couldn't touch a $3k U87.
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There are so many now you can't count them, but the original C1 is a great example of the first one that came close. Not getting in to wine tasting here but I did review that mic very favorably in Mix. Very nice slightly brighter but smooth as silk.
 
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