You didn't say, but somehow I'm assuming a traditional high-power passive crossover between an amplifier and the drivers. If not, forgive me.
But it makes me wonder, where's the price tradeoff that makes it better (as far as sound quality, acoustic power output, etc) to do a power amp per driver and line-level crossover (whether analog or DSP) verses a traditional passive crossover at the drivers. I'm thinking it's pretty cheap, in the $200 to $500 range. The only reason to have a passive crossover in the box is so the customer can choose his own amp to driver the speakers.
Then there's a point where the power amp might as well drive the line input of an active speaker, because it would sound better than a passive-crossover speaker.
I’m 67 years old, Wiseoldtech’s age.
I’ve noticed that many people about our age have retired and have little to do. They also feel they get little respect compared to when they felt like big wheel in their small shop. No one seems to want to listen to them.
So they go online and post about how things were in the “good old days”, and how the world’s going to hell, often conveniently overlooking the hypocrisy, and dishonesty, violence and hatred of their time.
We call then curmudgeons
I’ve noticed that many people about our age have retired and have little to do. They also feel they get little respect compared to when they felt like big wheel in their small shop. No one seems to want to listen to them.
So they go online and post about how things were in the “good old days”, and how the world’s going to hell, often conveniently overlooking the hypocrisy, and dishonesty, violence and hatred of their time.
We call then curmudgeons
I am fortunate enough to sometimes get to design an audio product where cost is not a significant factor. Usually we start somewhere (reasonable for hi end equipment) with what we think will be the final asking price, and find over the months of development, that to maintain the very high standard both in the active areas, as well as the fit and finish of the overall unit, that the costs go up and up, finally making the component sell for several times more than we originally estimated. If we stayed within our original estimate, we would not have an exceptional product, so we make it as best as possible, and sell it for more, in order to stay in business. Often it is the metalwork that really adds to the price, sometimes it is the very best active and passive components that we know are really the best that have become so expensive over the years that equally does it. In any case, things get expensive when you try for the very best.
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There's a thread on another forum called Curmudgeon's Corner. But there is much more humour and much less self righteousness in it.
There are many reasons to be concerned about what others think.
Firstly, as someone with e socialist tendency, I do not want to see fellow beings exploited because of their lack of understanding, or more particularly the predatory nature of capitalism which has developed from its origins. I don't like to see people played.
There was a TV programme last night on Amazon showing that their Alexxa not only is responsive to requests, but that all conversation are sent back to Amazon, they being pulled form the net. They use the information to 'improve their service', but actually they are profiling the lifestyles of the users. This IMO is a disgrace.
Amazon also gives free items to people who gives 5 star reviews of the product.
I do not want my fellow human beings to be stupid, because they have a vote which may well affect my life, and one of the aspects of democracy is that an intelligent but heretical minority can be 'drowned' in the aggregate of mass stupidity.
There is also the risk, and I have been subjected to this, of calumny being spread all over the place about any individual. I am single, a musician, a bodybuilder and I cut my own hair, and my belief systems are very unorthodox.
My neighbourhood had labelled me initially as gay, which I am not, and latterly as a paedophile, to the extent that the police have interviewed all of the other seven houses in my row of eight, about whether or not I have been seen with children.
If I place a "Wanted for murder" poster on lamppost, you can be sure that before long there will be a lynching mob on the rampage looking for the individual. Pure Muppertry.
Good products can be discontinued because of the lack of recognition by a majority of the population.
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You are right. It is ASR that has become a significant influencer, sometimes (but only sometimes) to the detriment of sound quality.
You must know that historians are not very reliable storytellers. Much like prosecutors in a circumstantial criminal case, they take snippets of evidence and weave them into a story, a 'theory of prosecution,' or a history publication. Either way, both make plenty of mistakes when information is sparse. In the case of historians, they get to revise history every time a new dig turns up more data.
Do you think so? I'm disappointed in the lack of interest in DIY beyond the absolute basics.
Amateur radio, for example, lures some very sophisticated participants. Audio, not as much. One can try to get people more deeply involved, but it seems they don't have time or they don't have the interest. That sort of what you are getting at?
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Sort of, even the op-amp and capacitor rollers are scared off. There are some very sophisticated projects with long threads here though.
Labels, some say, belong on soup cans, LOL!
And I tend to agree with some of your findings about "older people". 😉 But please, don't let my "online" personality determine what you might think, because it's common knowledge that it cannot replace "in person" experiences.
As for me, I honestly never felt, nor thought, that I classified myself as a "big wheel", but more as a much needed person in the service industry. And through that, a substantial and growing facet is in vintage restorations, due to lack of capable techs that could provide the proper services.
Indeed, the audio-video servicing of current products consumed enough of my time - lord knows the TV/DVD/VCR products, being manufactured the way they are, I can't even begin to tell how many flat screen sets came across my counter. - Samsung, Visio, among others, being some of the worst.
Being in touch with the companies that made them, and joining specific online/offline "service data trade" groups (you must be a registered professional with current credentials to gain access) helped sort out a lot.
I learned a lot though it all, and I can honestly say that watching the progression of manufacturing thru the decades, the quality, to what it has become today gives me a special seat in the opinion arena. - for which some, as you say, want to debate with me about. I also, early on, sold consumer "home entertainment products", and worked in some pre-Big-Box audio salons, again, giving me an edge on high fidelity knowledge.
Nevertheless, facts are facts, no matter how anyone wants to twist them. And I see the online communities tend to slant and corrupt things to their liking, often in amusing ways.
I'm still quite busy, I believe in the saying that once you stop, you drop, I'm far from wanting to be put in The Box. 😱 There is always something to do. But I pace myself these days - I want to enjoy life during these years, I made my mark, made my reputation, am thankful for the accolades given to me.
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It’s surprising to me that someone would want an online personality that doesn’t reflect who they are in entirety. Since diyAudio is a “do it yourself” forum, it can be an alternative to overpriced and low quality mass consumer products, so it seems that your comment would be more relevant on other “consumer only” audio forums.
Why don’t you use your extensive knowledge and sagacity to publish cost efficient audio designs that you’ve developed or are aware of for people to build rather than just rants. You know, be part of the solution.
Why don’t you use your extensive knowledge and sagacity to publish cost efficient audio designs that you’ve developed or are aware of for people to build rather than just rants. You know, be part of the solution.
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"It’s surprising to me that someone would want an online personality that doesn’t reflect who they are in entirety."
Really? I feel that doing just that is the norm, and that most online personas bare little similarity to the real whole person. For eg., FB etc.
Really? I feel that doing just that is the norm, and that most online personas bare little similarity to the real whole person. For eg., FB etc.
Huh, what you see is what you get with me!
About your neighbors Pharos..... it’s funny to me because where we’ve settled now is loaded with rich folks beach homes and I’ve played up the whole redneck persona down to the T (see pic) and they all fear the crazy redneck from the mountains.......just the way I like it! 😀
About your neighbors Pharos..... it’s funny to me because where we’ve settled now is loaded with rich folks beach homes and I’ve played up the whole redneck persona down to the T (see pic) and they all fear the crazy redneck from the mountains.......just the way I like it! 😀
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I was an early adopter in the 80's and bought a 25" Sony Profeel as soon as they came out, probably twice the equivalent cost of a 43" 8k now. In the last couple of decades we've gone through 12 or so flat panel TV's always COSTCO bargains and had one fail (it was replaced immediately). None cost more than $200 1982 dollars some much less. I would prefer any of them to that Sony.