safer ground plane
Why not just mask the ground plane with a thick insulating layer such as polyurethane or something similar?
John Inlow
Why not just mask the ground plane with a thick insulating layer such as polyurethane or something similar?
John Inlow
Yes, these pcbs were designed from Grollins schematics by "tvi" and enhanced by me (carpenter). I added the Aleph off-board multi-transistor approach as well as flipping around a few components.
Please proof read before using. I'm careful, but human. I have etched myself a pcb and now have the components. After I finish my wife's home office, I'm going to put the pieces together. Until then, I have no physical proof to whether or not these circuits are layed out properly.
John Inlow
Please proof read before using. I'm careful, but human. I have etched myself a pcb and now have the components. After I finish my wife's home office, I'm going to put the pieces together. Until then, I have no physical proof to whether or not these circuits are layed out properly.
John Inlow
Sorry John, where did you say we can get a copy of your PCB?
Thank Vince
BTW- I built your heatsinks last year and they look great. I haven't had the chance to put them to work yet...maybe on the XA!
Thanks!
Thank Vince
BTW- I built your heatsinks last year and they look great. I haven't had the chance to put them to work yet...maybe on the XA!
Thanks!
pcb availability
Hi Vince,
I made the pcb myself. I attached a copy of the pcb art to a raw circuit board and pressed indentations where the pads go with a sharp pointed tool. I then added the dry transfers. I began with the pads and then layed on the circuit traces. After that came the etching. Very simple proceedure.
Thanks for the compliment regarding my chassis proceedure.
John Inlow
Hi Vince,
I made the pcb myself. I attached a copy of the pcb art to a raw circuit board and pressed indentations where the pads go with a sharp pointed tool. I then added the dry transfers. I began with the pads and then layed on the circuit traces. After that came the etching. Very simple proceedure.
Thanks for the compliment regarding my chassis proceedure.
John Inlow
John,
Just to know that I have understand well , the sense terminal is were I put the source of each mosfet.
And if can be of help: the drain of Q10 is signed two times ; one of these is the drain of Q11.
Thanks very much.

Just to know that I have understand well , the sense terminal is were I put the source of each mosfet.
And if can be of help: the drain of Q10 is signed two times ; one of these is the drain of Q11.
Thanks very much.

Scale for the PCB layout
John,
When I open the pcb layout in photoshop, at 100% the image size is 8inch by 12inch. What is the actual dimensions of the PCB.
Thanks,
Vinay
John,
When I open the pcb layout in photoshop, at 100% the image size is 8inch by 12inch. What is the actual dimensions of the PCB.
Thanks,
Vinay
pcb size
The actual pcb size is 4"x6". I enlarged the drawings for clarity. I go to a photo shop to have my layout transferred to film. They do a 1/2 reduction and because of the process the detail is fantastic.
John Inlow
The actual pcb size is 4"x6". I enlarged the drawings for clarity. I go to a photo shop to have my layout transferred to film. They do a 1/2 reduction and because of the process the detail is fantastic.
John Inlow
nice catch stefanobilliani
This is why I'm so glad you folks are proof reading. I have made the correction to my drawings. Q10 drain (located next to R44/45 on the right hand side of the stuffing drawing) is incorrectly labeled and should be tagged Q11drain.
John Inlow
This is why I'm so glad you folks are proof reading. I have made the correction to my drawings. Q10 drain (located next to R44/45 on the right hand side of the stuffing drawing) is incorrectly labeled and should be tagged Q11drain.
John Inlow
Is R21 (3 W, 3 ohm resistor) strictly necessary beneath D2/D3 and D4/D5? Also, why not tie each path to ground with its own resistor rather than tying them together with a resistive path to ground?
Erik
Erik
PSRR?
🙁 It weems my last question got lost in the noise and forgotten after the discussion diverged on some random tangent... so let me ask again:
The balanced nature of the Aleph-X should give it excellent PSRR... however, real life so rarely conforms to such ideals. I really want this to be a <i>quiet</i> amp... for me, active regulation is out, simply because of the complexity and power wasteage (and I don't think it will have much advantage over a pi-filter anyway), but is a pi-filtered supply warranted, or will a standard cap-only supply be sufficient?
Let's hear from those who have already built and listened to this amp... what are your experiences with power supply noise in the outputs?
🙁 It weems my last question got lost in the noise and forgotten after the discussion diverged on some random tangent... so let me ask again:
The balanced nature of the Aleph-X should give it excellent PSRR... however, real life so rarely conforms to such ideals. I really want this to be a <i>quiet</i> amp... for me, active regulation is out, simply because of the complexity and power wasteage (and I don't think it will have much advantage over a pi-filter anyway), but is a pi-filtered supply warranted, or will a standard cap-only supply be sufficient?
Let's hear from those who have already built and listened to this amp... what are your experiences with power supply noise in the outputs?
Quiet amp
I have finished both channels (circuit) and am working on the
final PS and case. During test runs I have used both PS with and
without PI filter (74mF-2,2mH-74mF). With the PI filter everything
is dead quiet. Without PI filter there is very, very little hum.
Regards
I have finished both channels (circuit) and am working on the
final PS and case. During test runs I have used both PS with and
without PI filter (74mF-2,2mH-74mF). With the PI filter everything
is dead quiet. Without PI filter there is very, very little hum.
Regards
Hi rtirion
Well done!
Are you using the circuit that you published on 17 July with the 12V rails, or have you updated it?
Best regards
Nix
Well done!
Are you using the circuit that you published on 17 July with the 12V rails, or have you updated it?
Best regards
Nix
Nix,
Yes I am using the circuit with the 12V rails.
I have experimented a lot with the famous resistors, and for now
will stick with the 1k value.
No other changes.
Yes I am using the circuit with the 12V rails.
I have experimented a lot with the famous resistors, and for now
will stick with the 1k value.
No other changes.
rtirion:
Excellent! Thanks for the info... that's just what I was looking for. I'll make room for the pi filter in my design then. Somehow, I still had my fingers crossed that the PSRR would be good enough to reject the ripple of a cap only supply, but in the back of my mind, I knew it would be too good to be true.
Lisandro_P:
I'm not dissing active regulation at all, but with only 15V rails and high current... the additional power loss is a significant penalty. If I were to go with active regulation, I would most likely choose a cap multiplier type design, specifically for it's ability to track changes in mains voltage, thereby allowing a smaller voltage drop and minimizing power dissipation in the pass element. Anyway, I like the simplicity of passive only power supplies... the more projects I build, the more I appreciate simplicity.

Lisandro_P:
I'm not dissing active regulation at all, but with only 15V rails and high current... the additional power loss is a significant penalty. If I were to go with active regulation, I would most likely choose a cap multiplier type design, specifically for it's ability to track changes in mains voltage, thereby allowing a smaller voltage drop and minimizing power dissipation in the pass element. Anyway, I like the simplicity of passive only power supplies... the more projects I build, the more I appreciate simplicity.
Actually, I haven't ruled out the possibility of a CRC filter or maybe a CLRC filter... I'll have to run some simulations to do a comparison with straignt CLC, but it would be nice to damp or eliminate any possible resonance modes in the audio band...
What is the meaning of the letter "m" in the values of, for instance, R25, R24, R45, R29, et cetera in your schematic?
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