Hi everyone! I'm making my Hi-fi sound system project, and after finishing the power supply board and tested it, I'm designing the power amplification board. Any advice on the placement/routing before I print the board?
I'm using 2 TDA7293, supplied by a +/-40V power supply. The Transformer used in the power supply is a 80VA one?
About the routing;
the top layer is mostly for audio signal and the bottom for power signal.
Top layer :
Dark green and Red : audio output (speakers)
Light green and dark blue : audio input
Orange : command signal for Mute/Stand by function
The top layer also has a "polygon pour" (don't remember the word sorry) connected to nothing, to reduce noise.
Bottom layer :
Pink and light blue : power supply
white : Ground
I'm using 2 TDA7293, supplied by a +/-40V power supply. The Transformer used in the power supply is a 80VA one?
About the routing;
the top layer is mostly for audio signal and the bottom for power signal.
Top layer :
Dark green and Red : audio output (speakers)
Light green and dark blue : audio input
Orange : command signal for Mute/Stand by function
The top layer also has a "polygon pour" (don't remember the word sorry) connected to nothing, to reduce noise.
Bottom layer :
Pink and light blue : power supply
white : Ground
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What's the power output you're aiming at? What's you speakers' impedance? I suspect a 80 VA PT will be too brittle for a pair of amplifiers fed from ±40 Vdc rails.
Best regards!
Best regards!
The target output power is 50W for 8ohm impedance speakers !
What power would you suggest then ?
Thank you for your reply !
1st: Even for 2 x 50 W of output power a 80 VA tranny is way too small. Think of about 160 VA.
2nd: You don't need ±40 Vdc rails for just 50 W. ±30-32 Vdc is sufficient.
3rd: At ±40 Vdc rails an amplifier can produce about 100 W output power @ 8 ohms. If you're planning this way round, the PT needs to handle about 300 VA.
Best regards!
2nd: You don't need ±40 Vdc rails for just 50 W. ±30-32 Vdc is sufficient.
3rd: At ±40 Vdc rails an amplifier can produce about 100 W output power @ 8 ohms. If you're planning this way round, the PT needs to handle about 300 VA.
Best regards!
So 2*50W is 100 Watts audio rating?
There is loss from DC to sine (the way we rate) audio. 100 Watts output may want 150 Watts DC. And +/-40V promises 90+ watts in 8 ohms, so 180W of audio wants like 270W of DC.
There is strain in AC to DC conversion. The transformer VA should be picked significantly larger than the DC you need. A number like 1.3 is a good pencil guess. So as much as 347VA of iron.
But that supports all-day FULL power. Speech/music at clipping averages like 1/10th power. Amplifier loss as a fraction of output goes up, you can't run 35VA. 100VA to 120VA would be used in a "popular price" receiver of the 1970s, and it would play well, but not truly "solid" dynamics.
All of these will work. It's your amp,, do what you want. I'd suspect the 35VA is woefully inadequate for even mildly loud use (use the same core much much lower voltage and lower power expectation). A 400VA will measure great on test tones. 120VA to 250V seem like reasonable picks for most folks.
Thank you very much for your answer ! I'll re-design the power supply for at least 160VA to 200VA. I just remembered a mistake I've made when designing the power suppy, I forgot the fact that I use two TDA7293 and so I had to double the power.
Any thoughts about the layout of the amplification board ?
I would advise making feedback resistor path as short as possible.
If its too long oscillation can occurr.
1mm of track is 1nH of inductance.
If its too long oscillation can occurr.
1mm of track is 1nH of inductance.