Oh, sorry. Original Dorset xover schematic, for use as a reference. I figured it might help to know what response altering circuits Tannoy used on those drivers...
well - just post it
even if I already posted back-engineered one , it's nice to have their drawing
even if I already posted back-engineered one , it's nice to have their drawing
Sorry for the wait, here's the schematic of T185 Dorset crossover
I copied that by hand from the original print. I checked it and re-checked it, so I'm just about 100% certain that it's accurate. I wish I could find that original print...
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I copied that by hand from the original print. I checked it and re-checked it, so I'm just about 100% certain that it's accurate. I wish I could find that original print...
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naah
somethings fishy there
my xover schm is from 1004 xover also , PC Board 6620 0004/30
I have no doubt that you had your schm from Tannoy - but it seems to me that that day someone in office had a shot of two - more than usual
first puzzle is - 0,38mH in front of tweet ?
anyway - it doesn't matter to me , I'm just interested in another box for 2528 , will do my own xover from scratch
somethings fishy there
my xover schm is from 1004 xover also , PC Board 6620 0004/30
I have no doubt that you had your schm from Tannoy - but it seems to me that that day someone in office had a shot of two - more than usual

first puzzle is - 0,38mH in front of tweet ?
anyway - it doesn't matter to me , I'm just interested in another box for 2528 , will do my own xover from scratch
nobody else to chip in ?
Bjorno's MLTL is as good as any without knowing what you plan to drive it with and to go tall without being too wide, deep ideally requires a higher Qts tuned to Fs, so your stated performance goals basically dictates a high output impedance system unless BH loaded.
So, what’s your game plan?
GM
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So, what’s your game plan?
GM
tnx GM
drive - this time no tubes , so - any 10-20W usual FW with DF no less than 10
box type - either MLTL or BLH , but not bigger than 35x40x220cm (BxDxH)
anyway - it doesn't matter to me , I'm just interested in another box for 2528 , will do my own xover from scratch
I would stick to refurbishing the original crossovers as they perform some important eq functions ie a 6dB/0ct 'boost' and a driver specific notch filter.
Keep hold of the original autoformer which is at the heart of it as there are no replacements available unless you have them custom-wound at some expense.
These sites might be of help:
TANNOY Monitor Gold dual concentric speakers
Tannoy Speakers
tnx CD
I know these sites
anyway - there is no autoformer in Dorset xover
I posted nice pictures on Tannoy Yahoo Group
I know these sites
anyway - there is no autoformer in Dorset xover
I posted nice pictures on Tannoy Yahoo Group
In that case you're good to go I suspect.
Though I'd look for more juicy amps as Tannoys love current… lots of it.
From what I hear even DMT215s (101dB/1W/1m) sound a lot better driven with a 500w ss than with low powered amps. Headroom is your best friend here.
Though I'd look for more juicy amps as Tannoys love current… lots of it.
From what I hear even DMT215s (101dB/1W/1m) sound a lot better driven with a 500w ss than with low powered amps. Headroom is your best friend here.
tnx GM
drive - this time no tubes , so - any 10-20W usual FW with DF no less than 10
box type - either MLTL or BLH , but not bigger than 35x40x220cm (BxDxH)
You’re welcome!
Hmm, ~12” x 14.25” x 85” i.d. = 8.41 ft^3 net and the way I calculate a MLTL it’s only ~31” i.d. tall, so to get it up to 85” requires a theoretical ~9.5 Hz tuning with the driver ~55.5” i.d. + material thickness off the floor since CSA is too small to fold it up.
I guess what you have already come up with experimentally in MathCad is the best that can be expected of such a high aspect ratio cab for a low Qt driver, but it doesn’t look too promising except possibly with more stuffing, though of course no way to know for sure without building one, so looking forward to a review.
GM
tnx (again) GM
well , I was sort of asking for confirmation of my crummy MathCad calcs ...
as soon I manage to catch some things after 2 weeks of back pains , I'll try to arrange first test box
whadya think about possibility ....... (this question will show amount of my ignorance in horn design ) of making something as any of Spawns - The Spawn Family of Double Horns ?
well , I was sort of asking for confirmation of my crummy MathCad calcs ...
as soon I manage to catch some things after 2 weeks of back pains , I'll try to arrange first test box
whadya think about possibility ....... (this question will show amount of my ignorance in horn design ) of making something as any of Spawns - The Spawn Family of Double Horns ?
You're welcome, not that I was much help.
Ugh! Back pains, the story of my life........ 🙂
Well, the rule-of-thumb I use to check viability called for needing up to ~24 ft^3 for loading to Fs and half that for loading to ~1.56x Fs [~42 Hz], but still tuned to Fs, so didn't pursue it. IME, once it's shrunk any more, a MLTL is the better choice overall.
GM
Ugh! Back pains, the story of my life........ 🙂
Well, the rule-of-thumb I use to check viability called for needing up to ~24 ft^3 for loading to Fs and half that for loading to ~1.56x Fs [~42 Hz], but still tuned to Fs, so didn't pursue it. IME, once it's shrunk any more, a MLTL is the better choice overall.
GM
forgot to write
Dorsets passed to friend , I managed to acquire mint pair of K3809
so , going to make MLTL for 15"
😉
Dorsets passed to friend , I managed to acquire mint pair of K3809
so , going to make MLTL for 15"
😉
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