HUnter!!!!
Come on hunter it's time to prove u'r exsistence....
give u'r price list yaar .
jus kidding guys ....🙂
Come on hunter it's time to prove u'r exsistence....
give u'r price list yaar .
jus kidding guys ....🙂
I for one find this mighty exciting. I have read in your past threads how difficult the DIY scene is in India. I have also corresponded with some of you via e-mail.
While I don't want to sound like those that tell you that "hardship builds character", it would sure be cool if India developed it's ownspecific hi fi stuff, while the rest of us play around with pretty much the same drivers, etc. I have known various EE types educated in India, and some of them talked about how the cool thing in school for some was to make valve amps, so it never crossed my mind that you guys would have such problems.
Maybe there are Audio clubs in the technical institutes?
I have lived in other countries and know how some people exagerate their abilities to supply things, yet the suppliers often are frustrated by an inability to contact those that would be interested in their products.
If Hunter Audio could supply one of you with what he thinks are the best sounding 3 varients of a 6 or 7 inch driver, perhaps you guys could make 3 simple boxes, or open baffles, depending on their specs, and slowly pass them around
and come to a consensus as to their individual quality. I wouldn't hurt to reimburse him a wholesale cost when they are actually "in hand"
Although you all want different things, ie: 15" woofers, full range drivers etc., just getting a decent sounding mid/woof and a tweeter would be quite a victory. Then you would have a module
and could make bookshelf speakers, MTM d'Appolitos, Bipole push push, 4 woofers per side with some that are rolled off at higher frequencies, etc.
It is also interesting that there are possibly good components such as capacitors made right there. Man it must be frustrating to not be able to get your hands on them.
Anyway I wish you guys the best- it reminds me of what I've heard about the difficulties and enthusiasm of HIFi in the USA during the '50's
Mark
While I don't want to sound like those that tell you that "hardship builds character", it would sure be cool if India developed it's ownspecific hi fi stuff, while the rest of us play around with pretty much the same drivers, etc. I have known various EE types educated in India, and some of them talked about how the cool thing in school for some was to make valve amps, so it never crossed my mind that you guys would have such problems.
Maybe there are Audio clubs in the technical institutes?
I have lived in other countries and know how some people exagerate their abilities to supply things, yet the suppliers often are frustrated by an inability to contact those that would be interested in their products.
If Hunter Audio could supply one of you with what he thinks are the best sounding 3 varients of a 6 or 7 inch driver, perhaps you guys could make 3 simple boxes, or open baffles, depending on their specs, and slowly pass them around
and come to a consensus as to their individual quality. I wouldn't hurt to reimburse him a wholesale cost when they are actually "in hand"
Although you all want different things, ie: 15" woofers, full range drivers etc., just getting a decent sounding mid/woof and a tweeter would be quite a victory. Then you would have a module
and could make bookshelf speakers, MTM d'Appolitos, Bipole push push, 4 woofers per side with some that are rolled off at higher frequencies, etc.
It is also interesting that there are possibly good components such as capacitors made right there. Man it must be frustrating to not be able to get your hands on them.
Anyway I wish you guys the best- it reminds me of what I've heard about the difficulties and enthusiasm of HIFi in the USA during the '50's
Mark
In Calcutta next month
Hello everyone,
There is the possibility that I might chance around Kolkatta in late March shopping. Naturally, I will be eagerly looking forward to meeting our friend Hunter. ( His coated(aka quoted) prices are juicy) Before I get there, I will be ringing up Hunter on a mutually agreeable and reliable mode of communication. That will be for hunter to decide. I'm no Hifi wiz, but I can tell quality when I see quality, keeping my Peavey Black Widows and Scorpions in mind all the time. Sorry I haven't heard an Eminence or JBL - that still eludes my budget and eyes.
With all said and done, would Hunter be kind enough to give me his workable phone/cell numbers so that we could stay in touch during my trip there.
Peterpan73
Hello everyone,
There is the possibility that I might chance around Kolkatta in late March shopping. Naturally, I will be eagerly looking forward to meeting our friend Hunter. ( His coated(aka quoted) prices are juicy) Before I get there, I will be ringing up Hunter on a mutually agreeable and reliable mode of communication. That will be for hunter to decide. I'm no Hifi wiz, but I can tell quality when I see quality, keeping my Peavey Black Widows and Scorpions in mind all the time. Sorry I haven't heard an Eminence or JBL - that still eludes my budget and eyes.
With all said and done, would Hunter be kind enough to give me his workable phone/cell numbers so that we could stay in touch during my trip there.
Peterpan73
//// in defence of Hunter Audio //// Hi Tarun,
If you revisit Suranjans post, you will note that they are very rich in technical concepts. But they are not very good communicators. It doesn’t necessarily imply that they have bad or non-existence products. Suranjan has tried to clarify why a meeting with Angshu could not take place. While you have raised very vital issues, lets appreciate the fact that as an evolving organisation Hunter Audio have their share of teething troubles.
Suranjan if you are reading this then Tarun has very succinctly summarised the situation and you can’t do worse than seriously considering his advice. I realise that a web page may sound complicated. Never mind. Even Albert Einstein wasn’t that tech savvy beyond his field of expertise. So concentrate on building great drivers. And find someone who will build you a working website. They don’t cost that much nowadays. Get a school kid who will be glad to do that for you. Ok I make an offer. You send me pics of your Drivers with specs and I will have them hosted in my webserver. Free.
Sorry I didn’t want to sound patronising. I just wish them success.
Peter & Binil,
Common guys 😉 Give Hunter a chance. They could be your best source for Drivers here in eastern India. Lets work to help them.
Mark
Perhaps a guy like Navin will be able to explain better, but the Indian Diy scene was much better back in 70’s. Those days if you wanted even a half decent system, you built one your self.
Today you get Boxes, which also emit some kind of sound, as cheap as Rs. 2500. So the incentive for the younger lot isn’t there. And the increasing prosperity levels have ensured that we have a new breed of audiophile who believes more in a brand value. Bose speakers are ultimate symbols for the yuppy. Bose, incidentally, is and Indian.
DIY in India is a fading thing. Volumes don’t interest vendors. And we Indian Diyers are kind of dinosaurs who come to this forum for their daily fix. 🙄
Hunter,
If u would need some help in putting up a basic website...probably i can help u..Do let me know if u require any help in this regard. It need not be a full fledged one,...but just the basics..indicating what u have on offer...some technical bits...about hunter audio and stuff...just enough to live with now...
Thanks
ajju
If u would need some help in putting up a basic website...probably i can help u..Do let me know if u require any help in this regard. It need not be a full fledged one,...but just the basics..indicating what u have on offer...some technical bits...about hunter audio and stuff...just enough to live with now...
Thanks
ajju
Tarun,
Did u get a chance to use those drivers offered by Panda audio. Any opinion on them.?
Thanks
ajju
Ashok
With all due respect (even if you are wearing on Saddam's propaganda chief's hat!) I cannot agree with you on this one..Looking at the enthu and input on this forum looks, to me that dinosaurs are alive and kicking all over the country, and they arent going to rise off into the sunset.
On all other the matters I think you are right. If Hunter Audio wants to take you up on your generous offer, we will get an idea of what kind of maal he is offering the audio community..
corbato said:
yup me one of those dinosaurs. given that i have a quick temper and a nasty bite you can call me "Stegy" 😀
yes DIY is dying in India. No it is not dead! Some of us are still carrying the flag high by whatever means nessacary
Dr. Amar Bose is Indian only in name and country of origin. Lets not even go there.
Gotta say on thing though he has been ahead of the curve and capitalized on it twice. 1st were the direc reflecting stuff and everyone was buying 901s because God (sorry Mr. Bose) claimed that only 11% of the sound need be direct the rest 89% should be reflected or something to this effect. then he was ahead of the curve on the WAF-HT/AV factor.
When 5.1 and it's variants came out Bose's acoustimass was perfectly positioned. Even in papers released by the Bose Corporation they admit that their speakers do not produce the entire freq spectrum but that there are holes in the freq. response etc... and they go on to state that due to the tricks of psychoacoutstics we dont need to hear the entire freq. spectrum. if we hear 50Hz, 80Hz, 200Hz, etc... our ear-brain combo will recreate the rest. this may be true but this is exactly what causes listener fatigue. music was supposed to relax your brain. not make it delve into the intracacies of psychoacoustics.
back to india. well in the 70s the whole world was more tuned to DIY. Heathkit, EFY, Elektor, Dick Smith, etc.. were all very active. i just think life got too crazy. no one sits back and smells the flowers anymore. TV ads convinced everyone that instant gratification is IT. life has become one long beer commercial.
We wanted it. Japan designed it. China made it. Cheap. So out went the 1957 Mustang to be replaced by the 2004 Camry. Out went the Acoustic Research 3a and Dahlaquist DQ10 and in came Bose's Acoustimass. Out went Dynaco and in came Sony. Some people call it evolution.
Everything from to software to soft-wear, from hardware to hardcore has changed. So it is not India that changed. The percentage drop in DIYers is the same in India and the US. Maybe the drop in India was faster but that was because in the midst of this chaos our economy went global and we were (lord forbid) allowed to import.
In 1970 i had drove a circa 1940s Fiat and it took me 20 min to go from one end of Bombay to the other. The polution was so low i did not need the Air con on most but the hottest days. Today I drive a 2004 jap/korean econobox and it take me 120 mins to cover the same distance and i'd choke to death if the air con fails.
the one thing i do lament from our perpective is that philips stopped making drivers in India. i found their drivers to be pretty good and they worked to spec. they also had a lot of literature they put out. i dont know why this is but i still remember most of the model numbers from the past even i cant remember my anniversary, b'day or phone number.
70's
😀
I would have loved to be born in the 50's so that i could enjoy the 70's...four things...!
DIY audio (especially the primitive attempts of surround which i feel is better and simple than the current day versions)
a red Beetle..
Flower Power
and great 70's Rock music...
But i landed a bit late..in the 80's...
If some one has a time machine please donate it to me for a noble cause..
with regards
and eagerly waiting for the time machine...
ajju
😀
I would have loved to be born in the 50's so that i could enjoy the 70's...four things...!
DIY audio (especially the primitive attempts of surround which i feel is better and simple than the current day versions)
a red Beetle..
Flower Power
and great 70's Rock music...
But i landed a bit late..in the 80's...
If some one has a time machine please donate it to me for a noble cause..
with regards
and eagerly waiting for the time machine...
ajju
Ampman Felt Extremely Disgraced From these Comments BY FELLOW INDIANS
I felt extremely HURT when Hunter was Exploited This way.
He was criticised , exploited emotionally, Disheartened in a very savage manner.
All of you made a joke of his personal terms, which seems extremely painful to me.
Instead of encouraging him , u people start exploiting him.
TO ALL OF YOU: have u ever seen other people of different countries exploiting their own countrymen on this Forum.
Why u people bring such a DISGRACE to INDIA.
Every one is not a rich person have every thing in its possesion, What if Suranjan wants to demonstrates its Woofers in his car rather than a listening room, Secondly why u all of them especially Mr. Ashok tends to exploit his financial terms and conditions regarding the website.
Companies like QSC were not born rich , They have gained wealth from their hardwork and sincere efforts and broadmindedness.
An Engineer is not estimated by its wealth , instead of it is well estimated by its True knowledge in a particular Field, in which Suranjan fits very well.
My Appeal to all of u , STOP harassing The HUNTER AUDIO. PLZ Encourage him to Prove himself and serve u in a better way.
Ampman Felt Extremely Disgraced , Hence no Regards.
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The Above said was in accordance with the terms of Rules and Regulations of this RESPECTED FORUM and RESPECTED MODERATORS.
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Ampman simply wants to preserve the True Diyer Dignity on this Forum.
I felt extremely HURT when Hunter was Exploited This way.
He was criticised , exploited emotionally, Disheartened in a very savage manner.
All of you made a joke of his personal terms, which seems extremely painful to me.
Instead of encouraging him , u people start exploiting him.
TO ALL OF YOU: have u ever seen other people of different countries exploiting their own countrymen on this Forum.
Why u people bring such a DISGRACE to INDIA.
Every one is not a rich person have every thing in its possesion, What if Suranjan wants to demonstrates its Woofers in his car rather than a listening room, Secondly why u all of them especially Mr. Ashok tends to exploit his financial terms and conditions regarding the website.
Companies like QSC were not born rich , They have gained wealth from their hardwork and sincere efforts and broadmindedness.
An Engineer is not estimated by its wealth , instead of it is well estimated by its True knowledge in a particular Field, in which Suranjan fits very well.
My Appeal to all of u , STOP harassing The HUNTER AUDIO. PLZ Encourage him to Prove himself and serve u in a better way.
Ampman Felt Extremely Disgraced , Hence no Regards.
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The Above said was in accordance with the terms of Rules and Regulations of this RESPECTED FORUM and RESPECTED MODERATORS.
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Ampman simply wants to preserve the True Diyer Dignity on this Forum.
Time warp.
Quote : ........I would have loved to be born in the 50's .........
Even the 60's would have been fine !!
I think the 70's was the greatest period. Albums were practically great from start to finish. Additionally almost every album was great . Some albums were even recorded very well. They stand up to the test of time. Some of my old albums sound fantastic even by today's standards. Some had great music ........ahem.
I just got 60 albums free from a friend. All I have to do is make CD copies for him.
Wish I had more friends like that.
Cheers.
Quote : ........I would have loved to be born in the 50's .........
Even the 60's would have been fine !!
I think the 70's was the greatest period. Albums were practically great from start to finish. Additionally almost every album was great . Some albums were even recorded very well. They stand up to the test of time. Some of my old albums sound fantastic even by today's standards. Some had great music ........ahem.
I just got 60 albums free from a friend. All I have to do is make CD copies for him.
Wish I had more friends like that.
Cheers.
Re: Time warp.
60 70's albums!! which ones? Would you be interested in making extra copies (I'll pay, of couse) ?
- Ashwin
ashok said:
60 70's albums!! which ones? Would you be interested in making extra copies (I'll pay, of couse) ?
- Ashwin
To Hunter
Dear Hunter( Suranjan ) am i correct here.
guys guys ..... i feel tht suranjan here is pure of heart ... ashok u are rite .... he sent me a price list yesterday .... i feel he's got the expertise ... and we need to help him out for the world to know ....
amp man even u are rite dude....
hey peter pan do get in touch with him and give him my regards too. as a matter of fact ... diy audio's regards to him ....
ok whats u'r address in kalkotta hunter .... i do drop in at times there .....
any way regards ....
Dear Hunter( Suranjan ) am i correct here.
guys guys ..... i feel tht suranjan here is pure of heart ... ashok u are rite .... he sent me a price list yesterday .... i feel he's got the expertise ... and we need to help him out for the world to know ....
amp man
even u are rite dude.... hey peter pan do get in touch with him and give him my regards too. as a matter of fact ... diy audio's regards to him ....
ok whats u'r address in kalkotta hunter .... i do drop in at times there .....
any way regards ....
Benefit of the doubt
I'm giving Suranjan)(aka Hunter Audio).... a big benefit of the doubt for the moment until such time when we can eyeball!!If he can fulfill my demands... he is a rich man... thats for sure. By the way Suranjan I hope you have a nice audio sweep generator and an RMS meter in your shop. I am bringing my Shure PG81 and SM81 mics along with some software for testing the speakers in your shop/workshop.
peterpan73
I'm giving Suranjan)(aka Hunter Audio).... a big benefit of the doubt for the moment until such time when we can eyeball!!If he can fulfill my demands... he is a rich man... thats for sure. By the way Suranjan I hope you have a nice audio sweep generator and an RMS meter in your shop. I am bringing my Shure PG81 and SM81 mics along with some software for testing the speakers in your shop/workshop.
peterpan73
A Flat response room would be great
And another thing..... I hope you have some flat response room with an RT60 of less than 0.365 +/- 10% where we can test those great speakers of yours or at least a room with predetermined RT60 times. Please let me know this, so that I can ascertain whether I should make my own preps. when I reach there.
Peterpan73
And another thing..... I hope you have some flat response room with an RT60 of less than 0.365 +/- 10% where we can test those great speakers of yours or at least a room with predetermined RT60 times. Please let me know this, so that I can ascertain whether I should make my own preps. when I reach there.
Peterpan73
Well, I was born in '53 . I grew up in Carmel, California, 5 miles from where the "Monterey Pop Festival" was held.
I was a couple of years younger than the "real" hippies. When the event happened, My mother (and many others) was quite concerned. I was just listening to commercial pop music on the radio. It didn't do much for me 'cause it was really pretty bad.
I was really un-hip. My biggest problem was that I was the oldest in my family and I didn't have an older brother or sister to put me on the "wrong" path!
You can imagine getting to college only an hour from San Francisco. Suddenly I was exposed to all of the great music of that era- I was amazed. Even though "materialism" was frowned upon, he who had the coolest stereo was "the man" everyone went to their flat to hang out and just listen to the music-well other stuff went on too, but my mind is a bit hazy about it for some reason....
So, in the US, most people into high end stereo are from my generation it seems to me (and the pioneers before- my dad had a monster Fisher valve receiver- they gave it away of course.. )
I never saw a LOT of DIY except a few speakers, but even 5 years ago Tandy/Radio Shack had a lot of DIY parts. Now they still have a little, but much less.
Angshu was partly just telling a good story I think- for instance I suspect no more than 2 dogs were run over 😉 but exageration makes a good tale. I think that's why I read this thread- you guys seem to be having fun!!
As I said before, Wouldn't it be cool if Hunter Audio could come up with even one really nice sounding driver On the other hand, I'll bet he would benefit a lot from input from the other audiophiles to get that really nice driver! Even if the first couple aren't up to international standards in sound, feedback will enable him to make progress.
I was a couple of years younger than the "real" hippies. When the event happened, My mother (and many others) was quite concerned. I was just listening to commercial pop music on the radio. It didn't do much for me 'cause it was really pretty bad.
I was really un-hip. My biggest problem was that I was the oldest in my family and I didn't have an older brother or sister to put me on the "wrong" path!
You can imagine getting to college only an hour from San Francisco. Suddenly I was exposed to all of the great music of that era- I was amazed. Even though "materialism" was frowned upon, he who had the coolest stereo was "the man" everyone went to their flat to hang out and just listen to the music-well other stuff went on too, but my mind is a bit hazy about it for some reason....
So, in the US, most people into high end stereo are from my generation it seems to me (and the pioneers before- my dad had a monster Fisher valve receiver- they gave it away of course..
)I never saw a LOT of DIY except a few speakers, but even 5 years ago Tandy/Radio Shack had a lot of DIY parts. Now they still have a little, but much less.
Angshu was partly just telling a good story I think- for instance I suspect no more than 2 dogs were run over 😉 but exageration makes a good tale. I think that's why I read this thread- you guys seem to be having fun!!
As I said before, Wouldn't it be cool if Hunter Audio could come up with even one really nice sounding driver On the other hand, I'll bet he would benefit a lot from input from the other audiophiles to get that really nice driver! Even if the first couple aren't up to international standards in sound, feedback will enable him to make progress.
Re: Time warp.
oooooh you guys are gonna kill me..................but...........
my 1st concert was The Who in 1969 or 70. I dont remember much. I remember it was very dark and very loud and the amps were Marshall and HiWatt and i was disappointed because Mr. Townsend did NOT break his axe (sorry guitar).
i donated a few 100 albums to a very nice parsi gentleman who gave a good home to my Denon direct drive with some killer cartridges. I still maintain that this Denon with a simple Ortofon MC cartridge and a Harmon Kardon MC preamp would and probably still could outperform most CD players. It is just that I got lazy. I wanted a remote. I did not want to getup every 30 min to change sides. I did not want to have to spend 10 min pe side cleaning the record and cartridge. etc...
Today as time gets shorter, I tend to spend more time with my MP3 player than anything else. I have about 600 CDs. 400 of which cover the 60-70 rock era. I live in Mumbai (D ward). I wont mind lending these to anyone to listen etc... in return for these CD to be convertd to MP3 (I'll provide the Hard disk or CD blanks) before they are returned.
ashok said:
oooooh you guys are gonna kill me..................but...........
my 1st concert was The Who in 1969 or 70. I dont remember much. I remember it was very dark and very loud and the amps were Marshall and HiWatt and i was disappointed because Mr. Townsend did NOT break his axe (sorry guitar).
i donated a few 100 albums to a very nice parsi gentleman who gave a good home to my Denon direct drive with some killer cartridges. I still maintain that this Denon with a simple Ortofon MC cartridge and a Harmon Kardon MC preamp would and probably still could outperform most CD players. It is just that I got lazy. I wanted a remote. I did not want to getup every 30 min to change sides. I did not want to have to spend 10 min pe side cleaning the record and cartridge. etc...
Today as time gets shorter, I tend to spend more time with my MP3 player than anything else. I have about 600 CDs. 400 of which cover the 60-70 rock era. I live in Mumbai (D ward). I wont mind lending these to anyone to listen etc... in return for these CD to be convertd to MP3 (I'll provide the Hard disk or CD blanks) before they are returned.
Re: We need to draw a line____________
You're welcome.
But I don't think you were talking to me, were you? 😉 🙂 😀 😀
ashok said:
You're welcome.
But I don't think you were talking to me, were you? 😉 🙂 😀 😀
Re: Re: Time warp.
D ward???
I'm new to Mumbai so am not familiar. I would be willing and eager to perform this service for you. I can imagine that 600 CDs will take about a month to do if this were being done for about three hours a day. It is a little tough to get that much free time a day.
In addition, I do not have an internet connection so getting CDDB is impossible for me. Manually sitting and reading off the back of the jackets is another time-consuming process. I am afraid you will need a volunteer, who is a brave soul. I bet that hard disk would be a lovely thing to have for a day, though, after the process is complete!! 😉 😀
You should be encoding at 192 kbps for decent results. For best results, and if your player supports it, you should encode files in .ogg format, which is the open-source alternative of MP3 and it smokes MP3 at 192 kbps, as good as listening to the CD.
My player-cum-pda supports .ogg files, and the 64 kbps .ogg files that I use to save space, sound in many ways as good as or better than 128 and 160 kbps MP3 files. A single 256 MB card fits in about 100 songs, enough for a week of cab rides.
navin said:
D ward???
I'm new to Mumbai so am not familiar. I would be willing and eager to perform this service for you. I can imagine that 600 CDs will take about a month to do if this were being done for about three hours a day. It is a little tough to get that much free time a day.
In addition, I do not have an internet connection so getting CDDB is impossible for me. Manually sitting and reading off the back of the jackets is another time-consuming process. I am afraid you will need a volunteer, who is a brave soul. I bet that hard disk would be a lovely thing to have for a day, though, after the process is complete!! 😉 😀
You should be encoding at 192 kbps for decent results. For best results, and if your player supports it, you should encode files in .ogg format, which is the open-source alternative of MP3 and it smokes MP3 at 192 kbps, as good as listening to the CD.
My player-cum-pda supports .ogg files, and the 64 kbps .ogg files that I use to save space, sound in many ways as good as or better than 128 and 160 kbps MP3 files. A single 256 MB card fits in about 100 songs, enough for a week of cab rides.
Hunting down Hunter??
OK guys on Suranjan aka Hunter.
I believe he is sincere but like all outfits in Calcutta a little disorganised and unable to identify opportunities and make strategic business plans in order to develop his business.
I also believe that he has been duped in the past, he has told me this in private and personal communication that this had happened. It is my fault for not stepping in earlier, I had been off this thread for a while.
The story is that he was giving out driver samples, and these ended up being copied and passed off in the market under other brand names. We all know our (Indian's) proclivity towards dishonesty and the kind of regard we have for other's intellectual property (see my post above referring to the hard drive of Navin's), and I believe this story 100%.
I can imagine with experiences like that one would be wary of requests for samples, a look at facilities, etc. After all the internet is anonymous, dangerous and we do not know who we are dealing with - even more dangerous than the lanes and bylanes of Chandni Chowk, Lamington Road, and SP Road. I would be in complete agreement with Suranjan if he were indeed to refuse peterpan the opportunity of testing his drivers. If he wants to run the business in a particular way, it is his business, after all.
If he were to agree, however, it would be a good experience for all on this board, and validate the viewpoint being provided by Suranjan in his lengthy semi-technical, semi-marketing posts. It is completely his (Suranjan's) discretion as to how he runs his business. We can advise, but not insinuate.
Angshu's experience in Calcutta is typical, I have faced similar travails in all cities in India, the point being that unlike a Delhi or a Bangalore or Mumbai there are no main thoroughfares with wide roads and bright lights to hide the squalor of population, filth and poverty that we metro-dwellers have learnt to ignore over time. I also understand that the experience is very frustrating and that Anghsu feels a little let-down about the whole thing, and that is manifesting itself in the humor (tragedy reversed) as I believe the anticipation built up by Hunter was also quite exciting and attractive, I would lay the blame of this on Hunter.
If I was looking at a very important event like this, I would have met my customer/supplier at a halfway point and escorted him to my facilities. I have done that with innumerable people - packers, clients, friends and associates who are not familiar with my area.
But as a creator of intellectual property myself, I believe Suranjan has the right to protect his creations any which way he can. All industries and individuals have the right to do so, and all it requires is for him to see a good consultant. I also do not know who is behind Suranjan, and one must remember that business is very strange most of the time, and many compulsions may exist which one does not know about.
I see a struggling young engineer trying such remarkable things as competing in the marketplace with drivers which at least seem to be of a much higher quality than what is available. I wish him all the best and advise him to inform us once the entire setup is in place, and open for business.
OK guys on Suranjan aka Hunter.
I believe he is sincere but like all outfits in Calcutta a little disorganised and unable to identify opportunities and make strategic business plans in order to develop his business.
I also believe that he has been duped in the past, he has told me this in private and personal communication that this had happened. It is my fault for not stepping in earlier, I had been off this thread for a while.
The story is that he was giving out driver samples, and these ended up being copied and passed off in the market under other brand names. We all know our (Indian's) proclivity towards dishonesty and the kind of regard we have for other's intellectual property (see my post above referring to the hard drive of Navin's), and I believe this story 100%.
I can imagine with experiences like that one would be wary of requests for samples, a look at facilities, etc. After all the internet is anonymous, dangerous and we do not know who we are dealing with - even more dangerous than the lanes and bylanes of Chandni Chowk, Lamington Road, and SP Road. I would be in complete agreement with Suranjan if he were indeed to refuse peterpan the opportunity of testing his drivers. If he wants to run the business in a particular way, it is his business, after all.
If he were to agree, however, it would be a good experience for all on this board, and validate the viewpoint being provided by Suranjan in his lengthy semi-technical, semi-marketing posts. It is completely his (Suranjan's) discretion as to how he runs his business. We can advise, but not insinuate.
Angshu's experience in Calcutta is typical, I have faced similar travails in all cities in India, the point being that unlike a Delhi or a Bangalore or Mumbai there are no main thoroughfares with wide roads and bright lights to hide the squalor of population, filth and poverty that we metro-dwellers have learnt to ignore over time. I also understand that the experience is very frustrating and that Anghsu feels a little let-down about the whole thing, and that is manifesting itself in the humor (tragedy reversed) as I believe the anticipation built up by Hunter was also quite exciting and attractive, I would lay the blame of this on Hunter.
If I was looking at a very important event like this, I would have met my customer/supplier at a halfway point and escorted him to my facilities. I have done that with innumerable people - packers, clients, friends and associates who are not familiar with my area.
But as a creator of intellectual property myself, I believe Suranjan has the right to protect his creations any which way he can. All industries and individuals have the right to do so, and all it requires is for him to see a good consultant. I also do not know who is behind Suranjan, and one must remember that business is very strange most of the time, and many compulsions may exist which one does not know about.
I see a struggling young engineer trying such remarkable things as competing in the marketplace with drivers which at least seem to be of a much higher quality than what is available. I wish him all the best and advise him to inform us once the entire setup is in place, and open for business.
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