T-Amp as power amp ?

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Hy guys,

I can hardly wait for my T-Amp, my Marantz PM7200 needs repairing and will be back in about 2 weeks, and I took the oportunity to try out an order the Sonic Impact at last. My curiosity grows every time I read some rave comments of this little thing, and I'm already planning to offer it a metal case, alps poti, rcas and so on. Reading the promising reviews I ask myself which part of the T-Amp is so great, the input or the output stage ? This is important to me because I think about using the T-Amp a a power amplifier and hook it up to maybe a Rotel preamp, in order to get tone controls, remote control etc.

But I don't know whether that would be a good idea, because so far I believe the T-Amps strength lies in its simplicity, and I wouldn't like to mess up the signal with an usual preamp. That would be the case if the t-amps strenght would be the preamp section. So what do you think about using a good quality rotel or so preamp with the t-amp ?

Greetings,

Chris
 
the stock t-amp is a bit bass shy

i have mine modded with stealth as suggested in http://www.michael.mardis.com/sonic/start.html

a good power supply is a must to achieve good sound

at this moment the t-amp is being used as an integrated amp for bedroom listening

i have tried using it as a power amp by maxing the volume and hook up with a pio elite 7.1 ht receiver driving the front L and R bookshelf 2 way speakers with 8" mid/bass. the result is very good.

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I'm also planning to apply the stealth mod to my t-amp, for that I just ordered 2x Mundorf-MCap 2,20 uF 400V, 3%. Those are made for crossover building, but I suppose them to work, or did I miss something ?

Does the stealth mod improve bass performance ?

@cpu 8088: I would love to see your t-amps interior !

So far I pretty much know what to do, but I still have one question about the power supply. I'm planning to use the t-amp with a regulated voltcraft 13,8V 4A psu, but don't know how to connect the psu to the t-amp. Should I use an adapter and connect it directly to the psu connector on the t-amp, or should I take those cables leading to the batteries an put some adapters on them and connect those with the 2 cables from the voltcraft ?

thx
 
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should I take those cables leading to the batteries an put some adapters on them and connect those with the 2 cables from the voltcraft ?

Yes. You should also put a better electrolytic onboard (C10). When you do, jump the positive leg of the new cap over like in the photo below. You'll see that i have slipped a bit of red insulation over the cap lead.
This jumper gives a more direct, lower resistance path from the PSU to the supply rail.
 

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Thanks a lot for the advice and the picture, if I got that right you would suggest to apply the stealth mode AND exchange the onboard input caps with better ones ? That would make 4 caps...right ?

And what about the power supply, are 2A sufficient or should I go for the 4A Voltcraft psu ?

I have a 12V 0,8A switching psu around here, that would fit with the t-amps psu connector, but I know that its underpowered with only 0,8 A and my question is if that would damage the t-amp ?

Sorry bout so many stupid questions, this is my first diy project, gotta learn...

Greetings
 
inside my modded t-amp is a mess and no exotic replacement caps either.

i am no good diyer just a newbie. i only followed pana's great advice and ideas

regarding power supply i am using a 12v 2a regulated one. i have modded the input to use a solid xlr type connection which you can see at the back of the case. if you can find a 12vdc 5a power supply that would be ideal.

beware of flimsy power supplies stated as 12vdc but actually higher. that would fry your t-amp

definitely the stealth mod improve bass. check measurements in michael mardis website

next stage for me is to have another mod t-amp as power amp for home theatre front LR speakers
 
You will need 3 caps. 2 for the inputs (left-right) and one electrolytic onboard.

A 2 amp power supply will probably be enough if your speakers are 8 ohms. During most music the amps draws about 0.3A But loud passages will draw much more. 3 amps seems to be plenty at 12V. Most regulated supplies will give you a brief burst of much more current than rated. How much and how well depends on the supply.

A lower current rating will not hurt anything - except the bass. 😉
Be sure you get a regulated supply. Stay at 12 volts unless you add cooling to the chip.

The XLR used by cpu8088 makes a very nice power connector. A cheaper and easier connector is a 1/4" phone jack.
 
cpu8088 said:
i have tried using it as a power amp by maxing the volume and hook up with a pio elite 7.1 ht receiver driving the front L and R bookshelf 2 way speakers with 8" mid/bass. the result is very good.

Can you tell me more about this setup, I am confused by it 🙂 I have some sorta Sony 6.1 receiver, just wonder if t-amp could become part of the system 🙂
 
Hi,

saturday morning I got my t-amp, I let it play continuously until now, and it's still running...

It sounds unbelievable ! This is just what I say to anybody when I have to describe the little gem's sound, unbelievable...😱 :bigeyes: :smash:

You just get a kinda "live feeling", the amount of details is just...unbelievable, like I said before, I'm repeating myself again, like I did for the last few days !

Using it with a 13,8V Voltcraft psu 2A, at my listening level never drains more than 1A, with hip hop music at high listening levels I pushed it till 1,5A...the 2A psu works fine after all.

With my T+A Stratos F1 and my modded marantz cd53 I never managed to force the t-amp into clipping. I've been quite happy with my Marantz PM7200, but it is clearly outclassed by this baby here called t-amp.

If I were the president I would give order for everybody to own one...😀
 
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