Well, you touch on a point near and dear to my heart- some tube types and manufacture are just not great, others are. These 5692s are a lovely example; the distortion spectra are consistent and low, not a true duff tube in the bunch. And look at the standard deviation of the RCA red base set! If I had opened 9 bottles of Lafite from the era when these tubes were made (say, 1961), I seriously doubt I'd see anything like this sort of consistency.
SY said:Well, you touch on a point near and dear to my heart- some tube types and manufacture are just not great, others are. These 5692s are a lovely example; the distortion spectra are consistent and low, not a true duff tube in the bunch. And look at the standard deviation of the RCA red base set! If I had opened 9 bottles of Lafite from the era when these tubes were made (say, 1961), I seriously doubt I'd see anything like this sort of consistency.
Nine bottles of '61 Lafite?! That'd buy you enough tubes for a lifetime. Back in the late 70's I had a bottle of '61 Talbot. For some reason a number of bottles showed up locally at reasonable prices (maybe 20-30$). One of the best wines I've ever tasted.
Sheldon
Old Talbots get a distinctive poopy aroma (the "Cordier Stink") which I like a lot. The '86 is still my all-time fave. It's a Bordeaux trying very hard to be a Rhône.
Back on-topic, I ran my first set of ECC88 measurements last night, mostly as a warm-up to a full day of massive data-taking, to rewire sockets, check out voltages, gains, control settings... When it's all done, it'll get a thread of its own, but I did note some REALLY bad variability in mu, consistently worse distortion results than 5692s at that output level, and (Frank will love this) apparently the best performance from CCa of all the varieties I have in hand.
Back on-topic, I ran my first set of ECC88 measurements last night, mostly as a warm-up to a full day of massive data-taking, to rewire sockets, check out voltages, gains, control settings... When it's all done, it'll get a thread of its own, but I did note some REALLY bad variability in mu, consistently worse distortion results than 5692s at that output level, and (Frank will love this) apparently the best performance from CCa of all the varieties I have in hand.
So I gather it's only a matter of time before one of you McGivers (sp?) rigs up a computer sound card, a computer controlled power supply, and some stuff from your coffee cans, and generate individual tube curves?
Sheldon
Sheldon
Hi,
Can be done but no matter how computerized you are, it's stil going to be a time consuming hobby.
You're looking at a good fifteen minutes of warm up time for small signal bottles, twice as much for the power tubes at the very least.
Here's someone who actually did it:
KLAUSMOBILE
Cheers,😉
and some stuff from your coffee cans, and generate individual tube curves?
Can be done but no matter how computerized you are, it's stil going to be a time consuming hobby.
You're looking at a good fifteen minutes of warm up time for small signal bottles, twice as much for the power tubes at the very least.
Here's someone who actually did it:
KLAUSMOBILE
Cheers,😉
My apologies for "bumping" up an old thread.
I have just been reading up Morgan Jones hence my interest.
SY - Did you ever start a thread on the ECC88's ??
If so, can you point me to it ?
Thanks
Andy
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I have just been reading up Morgan Jones hence my interest.
SY - Did you ever start a thread on the ECC88's ??
If so, can you point me to it ?
Thanks
Andy
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It would make interesting reading, especially in comparison to the SN7 family and might prove/disprove some of the audio folklore that surrounds them. I've really only used them in cascodes.No, I don't think I ever did. And I ought to.
As the input and concertina splitter on my triode el84 PP I'll be using 6cg7's (9 pin mini equiv of SN7) biased with 3x red LED's in the cathodes.
Will be interesting to see how it goes...
Will be interesting to see how it goes...
The 6FW8 would be a worthwhile inclusion too (if possible), methinks.{...}
I'm particularly curious to see how the 6KN8, with a significantly higher mu, stacks up.
If they're the E88CC SQ version then I'll help you out! 😉I have 80 Phillips NOS 6922's on hand if you would like to burn some.
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