I think it is a voltage regulator controlled by an optocoupler , the error amp is the two transistor around the led of the optocoupler .
I have a hard time just figuring out what's connected and what's not on that schematic. Never mind what the inputs and outputs are. But here are my guesses:
The top portion (marked in yellow) is a cap multiplier. Nice touch on the load resistor (30 kOhm) as emitter/source followers tend to go unstable if you forget those.
I think the optocoupler (red) is there to control the start-up and power-down behavior. Either that or it's used for on/off control. It's not an error amp - unless bang-bang/on-off control is used, which usually ends in tears. Optocouplers are rather nonlinear, hence, not that useful for linear control systems unless something is done to linearize them (been there, done that).
The circuit marked in green is a CCS. It sets up (10 + X) mA in the bottom resistor. X mA flows through the NPN and 10 mA through the two voltage regulator tubes. It's a bit of a hack in my opinion. I would have preferred a current mirror, but I guess it works well enough.
Those are my guesses. Perhaps Hpeter's point was to direct our attention to the components around the MOS device. That shows the diode trick that Pete Millett pointed out.
Unless I'm mistaken, this circuit still doesn't solve the fundamental issue with cap multipliers; that in order for them to work, they dissipate almost as much power as an actual regulator but with lower performance.
~Tom
The top portion (marked in yellow) is a cap multiplier. Nice touch on the load resistor (30 kOhm) as emitter/source followers tend to go unstable if you forget those.
I think the optocoupler (red) is there to control the start-up and power-down behavior. Either that or it's used for on/off control. It's not an error amp - unless bang-bang/on-off control is used, which usually ends in tears. Optocouplers are rather nonlinear, hence, not that useful for linear control systems unless something is done to linearize them (been there, done that).
The circuit marked in green is a CCS. It sets up (10 + X) mA in the bottom resistor. X mA flows through the NPN and 10 mA through the two voltage regulator tubes. It's a bit of a hack in my opinion. I would have preferred a current mirror, but I guess it works well enough.
Those are my guesses. Perhaps Hpeter's point was to direct our attention to the components around the MOS device. That shows the diode trick that Pete Millett pointed out.
Unless I'm mistaken, this circuit still doesn't solve the fundamental issue with cap multipliers; that in order for them to work, they dissipate almost as much power as an actual regulator but with lower performance.
~Tom
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when i read this thread, got a idea around gas voltage tubes; they require for best performance constant current.
they can have better voltage stability than Si diodes
this schema should do 🙂
output voltage= Uvr+(Uzd-Ube) could be again tvo diodes in series
when i read this thread, got a idea around gas voltage tubes; they require for best performance constant current.
they can have better voltage stability than Si diodes
this schema should do 🙂
output voltage= Uvr+(Uzd-Ube) could be again tvo diodes in series
Why not just have a CCS on top of the gas tubes? That would provide plenty of line regulation right there.
Your circuit should work fine as long as the screen current doesn't exceed 10 mA, but it's probably a bit more complicated than it needs to be.
~Tom
Your circuit should work fine as long as the screen current doesn't exceed 10 mA, but it's probably a bit more complicated than it needs to be.
~Tom
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not only meant as screen supply
if ccs only used, when screen current changes also the gas stabilsator current changes.
they require minimum to work 5mA for example
idea on that schema is to provide constant current trough gas stabs, no matter what output 1mA or 1A (
tube alone)
if ccs only used, when screen current changes also the gas stabilsator current changes.
they require minimum to work 5mA for example
idea on that schema is to provide constant current trough gas stabs, no matter what output 1mA or 1A (
tube alone)- Status
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