Anyone seen or own one of these?
Welcome to Sugar Cube
Any video I have seen is mindblowing and they claim to not damage the signal so how the heck is it even possible especially in real time
I heard also some guys have built their own
Welcome to Sugar Cube
Any video I have seen is mindblowing and they claim to not damage the signal so how the heck is it even possible especially in real time
I heard also some guys have built their own
Click/pop removal is very old technology.
The speeds I was getting on 1999 PCs suggests no problem making "real time" today.
Of course the signal is "damaged" (i.e. not identical to the signal from an un-clicked/popped version of the material). There's an art to smoothing drywall spackle, and an art to smoothing audio glitches. Maybe they have the knack.
The speeds I was getting on 1999 PCs suggests no problem making "real time" today.
Of course the signal is "damaged" (i.e. not identical to the signal from an un-clicked/popped version of the material). There's an art to smoothing drywall spackle, and an art to smoothing audio glitches. Maybe they have the knack.
Clickrepair used to offer a real time version of their code. example of it in use on a 78 here YouTube . Due I believe to support issues getting the average person to get Java setup right for RT operation he stopped supporting it about 2 years ago but we hope it comes back at some point.
For offline processing there are many options for a lot less than the asking price of the Sugar Cube appliances, but the plug and go aspect I am sure will make it popular amongst those who like click free replay.
For offline processing there are many options for a lot less than the asking price of the Sugar Cube appliances, but the plug and go aspect I am sure will make it popular amongst those who like click free replay.
Can you recommend any?
What I cannot get rid of is clicks / pops. Just cannot get a setting that seems to get rid of them and its driving me mad to the point im thinking of buying this box and just recording from it directly to save me cleaning records and spending hours cleaning things up in software
What I cannot get rid of is clicks / pops. Just cannot get a setting that seems to get rid of them and its driving me mad to the point im thinking of buying this box and just recording from it directly to save me cleaning records and spending hours cleaning things up in software
Gave it a quick demo seems to have done a decent job without removing audio
But it still leaves behind unwanted noise where I know there was clicks before. Any demo of the sugarcube i heard you cant even hear such noise it is like a CD recording.
My brain tells me it isn't possible but I read they don't take the "sample the audio" approach which most software does so maybe thats how they can do it.
But it still leaves behind unwanted noise where I know there was clicks before. Any demo of the sugarcube i heard you cant even hear such noise it is like a CD recording.
My brain tells me it isn't possible but I read they don't take the "sample the audio" approach which most software does so maybe thats how they can do it.
Clickrepair uses statistical analysis so it about as advanced as it can get. Problem is that demo not in your own house doesn't give a true apples to apples. Can you post some clips to explain what you mean by 'unwanted noise'.
Sure before and after sample here - Playing: BeforeAfter.mp3 - picosong
Still non musical noise left behind.
True about the demos but on the videos I have seen they use vinyls worse than that one and it is clean as a whistle.
Here is what they told me when I emailed:
The SugarCube does not use frequency filters and hence the click removal process does not affect the overall tonal quality of the audio passing through it. Rather, our click removal process operates only in the time domain and only removes single instances of noise here and there but never in close, contiguous succession (like a stick repeatedly hitting a symbol or word block). In fact, the click removal process goes even further to avoid removing a single instance of a percussion sound if it is part of the music and not a click or pop on the record surface.
The core SugarCube process is done in the digital domain and is the result of years of R&D. It is not a simple DSP solution but rather a highly proprietary and complex software system that utilizes many sophisticated mathematical transforms such as wavelets. As stated above, it operates entirely in the time domain and has no sense of frequency so no filtering of any kind is applied to the audio. It also has a rule base where it makes decisions on whether a suspected click or pop is music or noise, also the result of many years of research.
Still non musical noise left behind.
True about the demos but on the videos I have seen they use vinyls worse than that one and it is clean as a whistle.
Here is what they told me when I emailed:
The SugarCube does not use frequency filters and hence the click removal process does not affect the overall tonal quality of the audio passing through it. Rather, our click removal process operates only in the time domain and only removes single instances of noise here and there but never in close, contiguous succession (like a stick repeatedly hitting a symbol or word block). In fact, the click removal process goes even further to avoid removing a single instance of a percussion sound if it is part of the music and not a click or pop on the record surface.
The core SugarCube process is done in the digital domain and is the result of years of R&D. It is not a simple DSP solution but rather a highly proprietary and complex software system that utilizes many sophisticated mathematical transforms such as wavelets. As stated above, it operates entirely in the time domain and has no sense of frequency so no filtering of any kind is applied to the audio. It also has a rule base where it makes decisions on whether a suspected click or pop is music or noise, also the result of many years of research.
OK, They have rather over egged their marketing. Clickrepair is also time domain, as as several others. Scott posted a rather nice picture of his preferred declicker removing a single sample click on a recording a while back. The maths is well known and in many academic papers. Note that I am not casting aspertions on the capabilities of sugarCube
Listening to the sample quickly (at work) I can't immediately work out if that is residual clicks (settings wrong) or noise. Might be worth running through the denoise package as well and see what that does.
Listening to the sample quickly (at work) I can't immediately work out if that is residual clicks (settings wrong) or noise. Might be worth running through the denoise package as well and see what that does.
Evaluating Audio Quality via your Computer .. Seriously ??
Videos, even Utube ones can be (but not always) of Higher resolution than worthless internet MP3 audio files.. as to some explanation.
I find click/pop free CD's or decently streamed tunes... as the Obvious solution. But then I don't presume to have Supermans' own hearing 😉
Videos, even Utube ones can be (but not always) of Higher resolution than worthless internet MP3 audio files.. as to some explanation.
I find click/pop free CD's or decently streamed tunes... as the Obvious solution. But then I don't presume to have Supermans' own hearing 😉
I dont see your logic, I can hear clicks and pops regardless if its via computer or direct from the vinyl to speaker.
Its the clicks and pops im discussing not the finer nuances of audio that can only be heard in a dust free room via purest gold audio cables sealed with childs tears.
Where possible I always buy a WAV from beatport/juno download or CD copy from discogs but with dance music a lot was on white label vinyl which never was released so ripping this way is the only option.
My vinyl rips come in at 32bit 96kHz WAV which i Dither down to 16/48 WAV when I finish post processing such as noise removal etc. I was told the highest bit rate means more accurate post processing before bounsing out to 16/48
My issue is these god damn clicks / pops.
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