Guttenberg is a big fan of the Klipsch Cornwalls. In this youtube he discusses "Voice of the Theater" which Reichelt had in his converted firehouse residence on Staten Island: Do you want to find out why horn speakers, tubes, and Japanese amplifiers are a big deal? - YouTube
He is a horn-oriented guy that prefers Cornwall to Revel Salon2! So his ideas are basically rubbish.
Agree with neat ripple . I've not listened to the exotic horn speakers they were talking about, but can imagine it possible for those to have a "refined" yet dynamic flavor. I myself have moved to almost full range paper drivers to get the live flavor . Very interesting video , Herb seems like a gas . Imagining attending a wine drinking , listening "swaray" .
I love Guttenberg's enthusiasm for hi-fi, but he tends to love everything. You can't really trust a guy like that. He loves Maggies, horns, the next "it" affordable thing. I honestly question how discerning he really is.
Greg
Yet they make a very good point. The system in which Sinatra was recorded plays back as if Sinatra were in the room.
Me, I use Klipsch for listening to LP's from the 50's, 60's and early 70's, mostly operatic and the standard classical stuff. Was fortunate to hear a great orchestra live through the 60's and 70's. Sounds good to me, not just good, but great to me, in fact much better than on my B&W's.
Me, I use Klipsch for listening to LP's from the 50's, 60's and early 70's, mostly operatic and the standard classical stuff. Was fortunate to hear a great orchestra live through the 60's and 70's. Sounds good to me, not just good, but great to me, in fact much better than on my B&W's.
I heard the larger avantgarde audio speakers back in 99 at a stereophile show in NYC. They made a lasting impression and to this day I haven't heard anything that sounded so lifelike and true to scale, reproducing every small detail so correctly and proportionately without a hint of compression or any weirdness whatsoever.
Most other horn systems don't sound that good to me, but I'm starting to see quite a few decent compression drivers and horns pop up nowadays, giving me hope for owning a reasonably priced horn loaded speaker setup in the near future that can satisfy my ears like the avantgarde audio system I heard.
I always thought higher efficiency large baffled speakers sounded more organic to me. The midrange is where all the magic happens and it took me lots of years to learn that concept. I've never liked small inefficient 2 way stuff for multiple reasons, mainly because you feel music just as much as you hear it and that adds to the experience... something a tiny bookshelf speaker can't deliver. Headphone listening is the same thing for me. Theres no visceral experience there just like with smaller speakers and you dont need to turn it up to ear splitting levels to perceive that either. Im sure you vintage Klipsh and Altec guys know what a mean.
Most other horn systems don't sound that good to me, but I'm starting to see quite a few decent compression drivers and horns pop up nowadays, giving me hope for owning a reasonably priced horn loaded speaker setup in the near future that can satisfy my ears like the avantgarde audio system I heard.
I always thought higher efficiency large baffled speakers sounded more organic to me. The midrange is where all the magic happens and it took me lots of years to learn that concept. I've never liked small inefficient 2 way stuff for multiple reasons, mainly because you feel music just as much as you hear it and that adds to the experience... something a tiny bookshelf speaker can't deliver. Headphone listening is the same thing for me. Theres no visceral experience there just like with smaller speakers and you dont need to turn it up to ear splitting levels to perceive that either. Im sure you vintage Klipsh and Altec guys know what a mean.
That's how it is, but it still does not suit everyone to have big monsters for speakers at home.
^ too black and white conclusion in my view. Might be "there is not as much magic in the lows and highs as there is in the mids since ear is more sensitive to mids" 😉
It should be, midrange is where all the magic happens when the tweeter and the bass are right, because otherwise it sounds hollow and shouty when those two others are not in balance with it.
Once in a while it is good to play around and listen to each of the several ranges alone or leaving one ore more of them away from the whole.
It is quite interesting to hear how low the contribution of each band seems to be when listened to on its own and how large the contribution actually is on the other hand if it is suddenly missing from the whole.
Regards
Charles
It is quite interesting to hear how low the contribution of each band seems to be when listened to on its own and how large the contribution actually is on the other hand if it is suddenly missing from the whole.
Regards
Charles
I'd like to experience some good horns well set up as opposed to in the hotel room setting of a trade show.
I currently enjoy large drivers in open baffles. The feel as well as hear comment resonates with me. Amazing how large speakers can completely disappear and sound effortless. I think good horns could take that up a notch.
There is a local guy (Ontario Canada) building horns with compression drivers using modern horn software to drive CNC construction. He shows measurements on his Youtube that looks pretty good. Reasonable prices so this might be my path to horns.
ES-600 Bi-Radial Wood Horn – Joseph Crowe
I currently enjoy large drivers in open baffles. The feel as well as hear comment resonates with me. Amazing how large speakers can completely disappear and sound effortless. I think good horns could take that up a notch.
There is a local guy (Ontario Canada) building horns with compression drivers using modern horn software to drive CNC construction. He shows measurements on his Youtube that looks pretty good. Reasonable prices so this might be my path to horns.
ES-600 Bi-Radial Wood Horn – Joseph Crowe
Are you a lawyer? Lol..
That is not an absolute exclusionary statement. Both are equally as important to me. Our ears are by far the most sensitive around 2-5 kHz. Thats where most of life's sound happens that we process the most critically in our brains. You can perceive distortion under .1 % in the midrange while you can get away with close to double digit HD in the low end. Our ears aren't as sensitive to HF distortion compared to midrange, but not quite so much as with low end. Most distortion measurements aren't really that valid over 10 kHz.
Of course a full range (preferably 3 way) system is important. A larger system will give you better midrange because one driver does most of the midrange duty without significant phase shifts, IMD or HD. That way you have a decent LF and HF driver to further extend the frequency range beyond the capability of a wimpy 2 way with less compromises in output capability and dynamic range. Ever hear how bad the doppler effect becomes when you try to get a good amount of bass from a small woofer in a 2 way speaker? Larger 2.5 to 3 way speakers almost always give you cleaner, palpable and more dynamic mids than a 2 way system (cheap junk excluded). Less cone excursion equates to less distortion and higher output capability. This entire analogy is why I don't like crossover points between 600 Hz and 4.5 kHz.
