If they made a comparison between something lika a 32 bit vs 64-bit processing, or maybe 32 bit float vs 64 bit double, then on a long FIR filter there would probably be audible rounding errors at lower bit length, that would be unsurprising.
At 64bit doubles rounding errors at the 24 bit integer level would be virtually. impossible. In any case the claim was filters with -300dB out of band rejection. The point was you can't listen to a simulation you have to turn that into an analog signal with a DAC, name one that does 50bits SNR.
No. Read it again. They are talking about calculations, the results of which have been measured in the digital domain, not the analog domain.
Then why claim listening tests, you can listen to numerical simulations? These can not be reproduced in the analog domain.
Then why claim listening tests, you can listen to numerical simulations? These can not be reproduced in the analog domain.
All this thought and reasoning is bothersome. His wife heard it from the kitchen. Clearly, that trumps all. 🙄
If you insist:
- for a 2.7mH / 16Ohm driver
- Amp capable of 10A at 20KHz, with 3dB bandwidth of 200KHz and maximum 25° phase.
- distortion less than 0.01%
- all protections possible 🙂
- software control.
[Edit] - in addition: DF better than 100.
Does TNT has an offer?
If you listen, there is great importance in transistors linearity. You really want a linear transistor and of course (this is the point) operate it in its linear region. Now, where do you see this requirement for linearity in the above measurement?
Okay, linearity will affect distortion. But can you see that <0.01% THD is easily achievable without paying attention to linear operation of the transistors? So this THD is based on the assumption that it is okay to operate transistors not in their linear regions as long as you correct them later with FEEDBACK

So if you disagree with the assumption, you need to have a mean to see the quality before the feedback is applied. Or, you need to have a mean to see how far the feedback has negative effect.
If you insist:
- for a 2.7mH / 16Ohm driver
- Amp capable of 10A at 20KHz, with 3dB bandwidth of 200KHz and maximum 25° phase.
- distortion less than 0.01%
- all protections possible 🙂
- software control.
[Edit] - in addition: DF better than 100.
Does TNT has an offer?
Nc400? 🙂
DF?
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Damping Factor is almost a useless number. There's better way to see amplifier capability in area supposed to be shown by DF.
Monsieur, the wiring of your brain and style of communication is so different than mine such that my poor language skill prevents intelligibility of my posts to you. Holding a decent conversation with you is a monumental task that tax so much of my time and effort I can only afford to attempt very sparingly.A Clockwork Orange style induced ...
Was it the old Blowtorch threads where they would say "she heard it from the kitchen..."
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Was it the old Blowtorch threads where they would say "she heard it from the kitchen..."...
A common occurrence.
It happened to me 30+ years ago while reviewing the then latest and greatest ReVox CD player: my ex-wife came out of the kitchen and said: "Stop this!"
She's not even a cook. 🙂
A common occurrence.
It happened to me 30+ years ago while reviewing the then latest and greatest ReVox CD player: my ex-wife came out of the kitchen and said: "Stop this!"
She's not even a cook. 🙂
Yeah. Wives are a good source of feedback. It's interesting to hear "Yeah, turn the volume louder!" or "Are you deaf?" depends on the quality of the sound 😀
In any case the claim was filters with -300dB out of band rejection.
That's a pretty bold claim to say the least...
If it was confirmed by blind tests now that would be really interesting.
That's a pretty bold claim to say the least...
If it was confirmed by blind tests now that would be really interesting.
That's not how I interpreted Mark's post. It's Chord's claim and it can be interpreted in different way. The audibility is not of -300dB per se but can be the effect of it in analog domain (of course nobody listen to digital signal, so before the wives start to complain I need to mention this hehe).
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Right! 🙂One is just "allowed" to state specs - no implementation aspects!! 😉
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Transistor is indeed needed, but all other components are not an easy pick as well. Any case, throughout, one can only state the specs, not the implementation.
Challenge is present even with 10x reduction of specs: 1A at 20KHz, all other specs being hold.
Unconditional stability is assumed understood too.
It is safe to say, that challenge is present even with a 10x further reduction in specs: only 0.1% harmonic distortion.
That's not how I interpreted Mark's post. It's Chord's claim and it can be interpreted in different way. The audibility is not of -300dB per se but can be the effect of it in analog domain (of course nobody listen to digital signal, so before the wives start to complain I need to mention this hehe).
Yeah, FUD 🙂
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