I don't know, is this possible to disconnect R3, without a catastrophic side effects?
I think it would be better to check frontend in this way.
Anyone?
I think it would be better to check frontend in this way.
Anyone?
If I do it, I can get 36dB for amplification factor, right?
(I dare not, I'm a little coward.)
(I dare not, I'm a little coward.)
Hey, John,
I have an idea what do you check, assuming that your amp's DC voltages are O.K..
Put a about 2.2VAC 50Hz signal on input.
An audiocard output can be good, and there are online signal generators, like this:
Online Tone Generator - Free, Simple and Easy to Use.
Choosen 50Hz, because it can be measured most of the DMMs.
(In my case it is about 2.2VAC RMS, because this is the level, where my amp started to clipping.)
Measure AC signal at T18, there should be about 17.3VAC.
While output shows about 14VAC RMS.
It is almost exactly 16dB, as Papa stated in the article.
This is a triumph of science and engineering, as I used to say.
Kind regards,
Gyuri
Thanks Gyuri, I'll see what I can sort out.
Regards
Detailed DC measurements can be found here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/295311-gyuris-pass-sony-vfet2-build-9.html#post4954842
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/295311-gyuris-pass-sony-vfet2-build-9.html#post4954842
Hi John,
As I can see, your measurements compared to mine, shows significant difference voltages between T7-10 and T9-T12.
Yours was:
T7 to T10 = 3.93V
T9 to T12 = -3.67V
Mine is:
T7 to T10 = -2.024 and T7 to T10 = -2.041
T9 to T12 = 2.063 and T9 to T12 = 2.019
Don't ask, what it means, I'm just saying. 😉
As I can see, your measurements compared to mine, shows significant difference voltages between T7-10 and T9-T12.
Yours was:
T7 to T10 = 3.93V
T9 to T12 = -3.67V
Mine is:
T7 to T10 = -2.024 and T7 to T10 = -2.041
T9 to T12 = 2.063 and T9 to T12 = 2.019
Don't ask, what it means, I'm just saying. 😉
The difference may be due to connected the instrument polarity.
But the value almost twice of my measurements.
I've always joined minus pole to the first testpoint, the plus pole to the second test point.
I hope, this was understandable. 🙂
But the value almost twice of my measurements.
I've always joined minus pole to the first testpoint, the plus pole to the second test point.
I hope, this was understandable. 🙂
Hi Gyuri,
The diff there might have to do with the Vgs of the mosfets used?
Are you using Toshiba 2sk/2sj mosfets? I would expect those values to be larger
if Fairchilds are used.
Cheers,
Dennis
The diff there might have to do with the Vgs of the mosfets used?
Are you using Toshiba 2sk/2sj mosfets? I would expect those values to be larger
if Fairchilds are used.
Cheers,
Dennis
I have to go into the garden with the cat, whatever it is cold, because he chews my ear.
(And annoyingly loud meow.)
(And annoyingly loud meow.)
Not done yet, but I've got the ball rolling...
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/302380-sony-vfet-illustrated-build-guide.html
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/302380-sony-vfet-illustrated-build-guide.html
Not done yet, but I've got the ball rolling...
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/302380-sony-vfet-illustrated-build-guide.html
All guides builds threads is stimulate me for amps diy !
Thanks a lot Jim 🙂
Have a nice day
Not done yet, but I've got the ball rolling...
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/302380-sony-vfet-illustrated-build-guide.html
many thanks, 6l6 !
It is a better place: 🙂
I made a little mistake, because I wanted to do it well (we know it, the road to hell is paved with good intentions) as I haven't used those little heatsink for 2SK2013/2SJ313.
Rather I coupled them to the main heatsink with aluminium blocks.
So I must have to forget that front end would reach its working temperature on its own.
It resulted that I must have had to lowering bias current at front end, as SONYs heated up the whole thing.
It caused some trouble for me, as this kicked off the offset balance
Although bias is exactly 100mA at R32, and offset on output around 1mV at each channel, and amp sound extremly well, I'm not satisfied.
My question is:
How can be set all of the operating points to a correct state, when SONYs at their places?
Some measurements here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/295311-gyuris-pass-sony-vfet2-build-9.html#post4954842
I made a little mistake, because I wanted to do it well (we know it, the road to hell is paved with good intentions) as I haven't used those little heatsink for 2SK2013/2SJ313.
Rather I coupled them to the main heatsink with aluminium blocks.
So I must have to forget that front end would reach its working temperature on its own.
It resulted that I must have had to lowering bias current at front end, as SONYs heated up the whole thing.
It caused some trouble for me, as this kicked off the offset balance
Although bias is exactly 100mA at R32, and offset on output around 1mV at each channel, and amp sound extremly well, I'm not satisfied.
My question is:
How can be set all of the operating points to a correct state, when SONYs at their places?
Some measurements here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/295311-gyuris-pass-sony-vfet2-build-9.html#post4954842
Hi Gyuri,
This might help:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/276711-sony-vfet-amplifier-part-2-a-203.html#post4845297
Cheers,
Dennis
This might help:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/276711-sony-vfet-amplifier-part-2-a-203.html#post4845297
Cheers,
Dennis
If I'm not mistaken, T19 and T20 values will change as you adjust P1 and P2.
They should be around 12.5V (ignoring sign) when the pots are at mid point
2.5K position.
Cheers,
Dennis
They should be around 12.5V (ignoring sign) when the pots are at mid point
2.5K position.
Cheers,
Dennis
I will run some round around its settings, it is for sure.
But I'm now rather listening to it, because it is damned good, as is. 😀
But I'm now rather listening to it, because it is damned good, as is. 😀
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