Slewmaster - CFA vs. VFA "Rumble"

I have two sets of slewmasters in my system:
For main speakers (Klipsch RP280F 8 ohms): dual mono 2x625va with 80v rails and 5p NJW0302/0281
For subwoofers (6 ohms Lab12): Mono blocks with 800va transformers but only 70v rails using 5p Sanken 2sa1295/2sc3264.

Since the speakers has much higher sensitivity then the subwoofers, the subwoofer amps start clipping when playing loud. I can probably run the 70V mono blocks on the main speakers with plenty of headroom.

The question is: Will 625VA 80V be sufficient when driving subwoofers (with music, not full load test over extended periods)? Can the njw0302/0281 transistors take the beating with heavier load or should I replace them with MT200 devices to be on the safe side?
 
I have two sets of slewmasters in my system:
For main speakers (Klipsch RP280F 8 ohms): dual mono 2x625va with 80v rails and 5p NJW0302/0281
For subwoofers (6 ohms Lab12): Mono blocks with 800va transformers but only 70v rails using 5p Sanken 2sa1295/2sc3264.

Since the speakers has much higher sensitivity then the subwoofers, the subwoofer amps start clipping when playing loud. I can probably run the 70V mono blocks on the main speakers with plenty of headroom.

The question is: Will 625VA 80V be sufficient when driving subwoofers (with music, not full load test over extended periods)? Can the njw0302/0281 transistors take the beating with heavier load or should I replace them with MT200 devices to be on the safe side?

Hi Yngvejos, at the moment - a quick calculation - your subwoofer amplifiers allow delivering roughly 65Vp = 46V RMS swing before clipping, resulting at around 350W at 6 ohm speakers. If this is not enough 🙂eek🙂, I would just switch to +/-80V rails for them as well - then the swing will increase to, say, 75Vp = 53V RMS, resulting in up to 500W RMS at 6 ohm, providing plenty of headroom before Lab12 is coming to its edge 😉

MT-200 devices provide higher current delivery and heat dissipation capabilities, serving better at high output power levels.

Cheers,
Valery
 
5pr of 180W devices have a total Pmax of 1800W
The maximum reliable power into a severe reactance speaker is approximately one fifth of that i.e. 360W

360W into 8ohms needs ~66Vpk
Since you have +-80Vdc you can't get much above 360W of max output.
Your devices will be reliable if properly cooled.

But a bass only speaker directly driven by it's own dedicated amplifier is not a severe reactance speaker, at worst it is medium reactance and maybe only mild/moderate.
Your 5pair of devices are safe.
 
Thanks for the replies. Val: Increasing to 80v rails would be the best, but 800va transformers isn't cheap, and those I have has an epoxy core so it's not easy to add windings. :/


I'll test the amp with 80v rails on my subs next time I'm home from work. Maybe I'll order some mt200s for it just to feel better. 😉
 
Thanks for the replies. Val: Increasing to 80v rails would be the best, but 800va transformers isn't cheap, and those I have has an epoxy core so it's not easy to add windings. :/


I'll test the amp with 80v rails on my subs next time I'm home from work. Maybe I'll order some mt200s for it just to feel better. 😉

I will have around 78-80Vdc for these project 800VA transformer for each channel. Will be good to see how all work out for you.🙂
 
I will have around 78-80Vdc for these project 800VA transformer for each channel. Will be good to see how all work out for you.🙂

I have used my amp with two 625VA and 80v rails for more then 1 year without hickups, so there's nothing to worry about. I cheaped out and bought njw0302/0281 transistors for that amp since I have been running it with 8r load on 98db speakers. I probably went overkill with 80v rails for that purpose, but it's nice to know that you have headroom even in drunk mode. 🙂
 
I am very happy with the final outcome. The amp sounds very good. Very revealing and definitely no shortage of bass, It betters my lateral mosfet which is a very good amp. Thanks everybody for the help and advice . KND frontend is superbbb!

Cheers :cheers:
 

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Thanks Jeff. Had enough for now in cutting with a jigsaw and filing everything square on 3mm alu 😀 but I am glad It came out good. I have also calibrated the old Sifam VU meters. I mounted those little flat white leds on sticky tape inside the meters. Works good. The sound betters my NAD 214 and even Lateral mosfet amp which itself is very good. I am really not biased towards the Slewmaster as it is a new build, It just's really sounds better . My true observation.