Offering both BC and 2SA pin compatibility. About resistor sizes options I will have to see when the rough plan is finished.
Just finished k117gr mod on V12r vref.... much faster catch up indeed.... almost instant to 34.5v.... I wonder how you know all this stuff.... You seem to be able to pick the best parts for their function but also for their sonic posture with ease. Do you pick those by reading the datasheets or what ?
I ask this because in my case, I can only pick the parts after experimenting a lot ... after I know what a part sounds like, I can predict it's effect on a future build but this requires a lot of work and experience.... are you that experienced ?
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And has comparable noise to K170 still. Two birds with one stone in that place. I collected many candidates over the few last years after browsing datasheets and then I checked them out in my specific circuits. Measured and listened.
What is Rg (signal source resistance) in the datasheets ?
Noise is comparable between k170 and k117 in the vref, but I see noise starts to rise with Drain currents below 1mA in the case of k170...
Soundwise, k117 seems to behave better at low freq but lacks the "fantasmagoric" high freq presentation of the k170....
Maybe I could use a low idss k170 with higher drain current (2mA) but in that case I would need a 17k resistor instead of a 30k for vref... what should be the backside of this choice ? How low can I get before Zo starts to rise and be noticed in the very lows ?
Noise is comparable between k170 and k117 in the vref, but I see noise starts to rise with Drain currents below 1mA in the case of k170...
Soundwise, k117 seems to behave better at low freq but lacks the "fantasmagoric" high freq presentation of the k170....
Maybe I could use a low idss k170 with higher drain current (2mA) but in that case I would need a 17k resistor instead of a 30k for vref... what should be the backside of this choice ? How low can I get before Zo starts to rise and be noticed in the very lows ?
K170GR is even worse for drift there. "Fantasmagoric" can be a bit of thermal modulation artifact or its more capacitance modulation harmonics. Better stay with the faster stabler Vref FET and compensate elsewhere for subjective stuff. Like in Riaa curve and various AC couplers. Or in the reg parts itself.
Rg is the impedance that the gate sees in any case. There are optimums for noise. But you filter it here also with the Vref cap.
Ok.. thank you again... how do you choose a fet for it's drift based on the datasheet info ?
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For that series they don't show but in other more proper for CCS fets they show tempco zero cross curves like attached (J201). Alas most such fets are much more demanding than the Vbe only VDS we use them in those regs plus they are much more noisier usually. I could see a 1.2R making an LMC losing 10dB noise floor with a J201 for instance.
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1x 389 input folded simplistic gave me -100dB 1/F @ 20Hz. Same as with the Paradise.
*2x 389BL would be more fair since the gains of the two circuits would be nearer.
*2x 389BL would be more fair since the gains of the two circuits would be nearer.
So that is wha i need now.... I felt the 4 x k170 lacked bass grip and is noisier than the 2 x k170 build.
Inittially I wondered if that noise came from the 12ohm Rs used... I was now recalculating the folded ccs resistor to lower these Rs to 3.9ohm... but now I know better... where can I get some good 389 ... ampslab ?
Inittially I wondered if that noise came from the 12ohm Rs used... I was now recalculating the folded ccs resistor to lower these Rs to 3.9ohm... but now I know better... where can I get some good 389 ... ampslab ?
I don't have any best source. I had 20-30pcs that I got from Ebay once. Cowboy legged ammo tape ones that proved OK.
Ricardo, which Idss did you chose for the K117 in this position?
or
Salas, which is the reccomendend Idss for the K117?
Thank you both!