My policy is not to watch these videos. Visitor counts lend them credibility. I am grateful for the summaries of errors which some of you post here, so I know I haven't missed anything of any importance.jneutron said:
I do sometimes read silly web pages. Maybe this is because I find it easier to pick out a written sentence and show the untruth in it.
The people promoting all this nonsense seem quite oblivious to how ridiculous they look to those who actually listened during their electricity lessons in school. They seem to have learnt the words, but the meanings have passed them by.
Only if the “substance coupling” is nonlinear or time dependent. Otherwise, the cable will still be non directional.
For the rest, I agree.
Hello Waly.
I have just run some subjective trials.
I am running 40cm RCA interconnects using el cheapo white plastic plugs and RG59 cable.
Running 2 ch mono source I have very precise centre image with precise depth imaging.
When I swap the direction of one interconnect this all changes....the center image is broadened and the depth image is 'broadened' also.
Moving to listening to preferentially one cabinet or the other reveals a 'polarity' issue.....sort of sounds like one cabinet in correct absolute polarity and the other cabinet in reversed polarity.
Normal or reversed direction of both cables causes the same 'polarity' changes.
I also just tried an experiment I have been 'getting around to' and that is to 'skin' the RG59.
The directional effect is still robustly evident and overall the sound is clearer and more informational.
These Mid/Side and depth informational changes are consistent with my prior experience and as my system progresses these kinds of otherwise subtle characteristics are more clearly revealed...IOW plain as day.
Dan.
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Don’t insist, I’m not buying this kind of BS. At audio frequencies the directionality effect due to the dielectric electric and magnetic nonlinearities is 10-12 orders of magnitude lower that what can be measured in a regular lab. If you think you can hear that, you may want to apply for a job at LIGO, with some training you could potentially hear the gravitational waves before the usual 400dB of parametric gain.
Uh huh.
I'm just reporting what I find, tonight I will rerun the experiment by my housemate and his GF.
The cause of the observed subjective directional effects are in the cable or in the 85c RCAs, I vote for the cable.
Dan.
Max, thanks for putting up the Hummel download here. I had no idea that it could be had for free these days. Everyone should read Chapter 7 to get up to speed!
It will be blind after training, and the blind test will be to determine which channel is altered.
This is not DBT, but who cares.
Dan.
I agree.. Life is far to short to listen to loads of ill considered waffle just in case it get to something concrete. At leas a page you can scan in seconds and see if there's hope of sense or not...
I also see we are back to nonsense words for audio description like "glare"...
As I said, if you have something which can respond to the product of electric and magnetic fields then you can have directionality as it is the product which determines energy flow. This will necessarily be nonlinear, as it multiplies two things together, and I guess you could call it time dependent as the multiplier for one field will be the other field and both are varying with time. Nonlinearity alone is insufficient, as that could just produce non directional distortion. You need to sense the direction of energy flow.Waly said:
OK well they advertise
BTW that video makes me embarassed to be a brit. I can't listen to 'seven fowzand' more than once. Also the 'its too complex to explain' at least lets you know to hit the stop button.
Have they proven this?
BTW that video makes me embarassed to be a brit. I can't listen to 'seven fowzand' more than once. Also the 'its too complex to explain' at least lets you know to hit the stop button.
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Artists with unlimited budgets always use tube mics and other valve equip. Thats how they make the big bucks.
Adele is one recent example.
She used a touch of the all tube Pioneer SR-101.
(live and studio)
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