First or second post? First post is about if those trafos could do SE to Bal conversion in a proper manner for me ib the Donuts inputs. They are for line splitting as you see and can be coupled for SE input/bal output even if there are no such example on the spec.
Second post was about if they should be considered to less inductive for a good signal, I had an idea of using two per channel (since I have 10 laying around), serial all primarys (2+2, SE out to gnd) and serial each 2 output coils per trafo with one end to ground. If I take signal from the opposite in each trafo I get one inverted.
I should draw but its good night story time with sonny. L8ters
Second post was about if they should be considered to less inductive for a good signal, I had an idea of using two per channel (since I have 10 laying around), serial all primarys (2+2, SE out to gnd) and serial each 2 output coils per trafo with one end to ground. If I take signal from the opposite in each trafo I get one inverted.
I should draw but its good night story time with sonny. L8ters
they're good enough for SE to BAL , one per channel
no need for two , if your pre can feed load presented with them secondaries loaded as per datasheet :
Optimum load for best square-wave response
(secondaries. in series):
2.8 K in series with 0.7 nF
however , considering that you are going to use them in (whole) secondary CT grounded manner , you can choose how to load it :
- without loading (observing whole amp's square waves test behavior )
-loading each half of Lundahl secondary ............ probably quarter of said R and quadruple of said C will do )
-loading entire Lundahl secondary with said RC combo , ignoring fact of CT ..... which you obviously can
that way , using one 1570 per channel , you can send all surplus ones to OPLDF

no need for two , if your pre can feed load presented with them secondaries loaded as per datasheet :
Optimum load for best square-wave response
(secondaries. in series):
2.8 K in series with 0.7 nF
however , considering that you are going to use them in (whole) secondary CT grounded manner , you can choose how to load it :
- without loading (observing whole amp's square waves test behavior )
-loading each half of Lundahl secondary ............ probably quarter of said R and quadruple of said C will do )
-loading entire Lundahl secondary with said RC combo , ignoring fact of CT ..... which you obviously can
that way , using one 1570 per channel , you can send all surplus ones to OPLDF

yup , I did ....... same as I'm enjoying all the time 
some graphical info already posted in Da Pub

some graphical info already posted in Da Pub
Thanks for an excellent answer Massa. Well 2K8 is a hefty load. Most cases would take some CF for that but then its hard to make it output 9+ V PP. Maybe some differential parafeed style with some hefty toob. 6V6 variant maybe. Salas 6V6 AF can handle some 5k I think and output the needed voltage.
just crank up the input , with one input leg grounded
amp itself will work as SE to BAL converter
for that , 6V6 based pre will suffice , voltage wise
...... or make split load choke 6V6 (balanced , so ) preamp
..... or wait small eternity , for Brynhildr
edit: don't call me Massa ......... call me Bwana
amp itself will work as SE to BAL converter
for that , 6V6 based pre will suffice , voltage wise
...... or make split load choke 6V6 (balanced , so ) preamp
..... or wait small eternity , for Brynhildr

edit: don't call me Massa ......... call me Bwana

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Split load choke - ? Meaning a trafo like LL1660 or how?
Actually my ancient Rosenblitz "Grounded Grid" is good for some 20 v pp @ 300 ohm. I have never cared much about its sound compared to other stuff lately but for this application it might be the thing.
Some reading about load/phase splitting and Z: Octal Aikido All-in-One & Split-Load Phase Splitter Zo
Actually my ancient Rosenblitz "Grounded Grid" is good for some 20 v pp @ 300 ohm. I have never cared much about its sound compared to other stuff lately but for this application it might be the thing.
Some reading about load/phase splitting and Z: Octal Aikido All-in-One & Split-Load Phase Splitter Zo
Or I just go out to Per and ask for some of those Lundahl Transformers - Other tube amplifire transformers LL16XX
go search for Drek preamp , made by Magura for Steen , as example of concept ( old as Prometheus Troubles )
speaking of chokes , it seems http://www.lundahl.se/pdf/2743.pdf will do the job
speaking of chokes , it seems http://www.lundahl.se/pdf/2743.pdf will do the job
Thanks, I found a long builders thread.
I might try my 6V6 with some http://www.lundahl.se/pdf/1660.pdf 18 mA also which I also have somewhere. Wired as Alt V 2,25 : 2+2 it should stand the 21 ish mA current that Salas setup gives.
I might try my 6V6 with some http://www.lundahl.se/pdf/1660.pdf 18 mA also which I also have somewhere. Wired as Alt V 2,25 : 2+2 it should stand the 21 ish mA current that Salas setup gives.
Cheers! Next two questions:
C4/C5 and C6/C9, what is prefered/optimal type, lyt or film?
Shall tailresistors sit tight on mosfets or can they be apart? Or rephrased, which ways in the circuit shall be held short?

C4/C5 and C6/C9, what is prefered/optimal type, lyt or film?
Shall tailresistors sit tight on mosfets or can they be apart? Or rephrased, which ways in the circuit shall be held short?

Cheers! Next two questions:
C4/C5 and C6/C9, what is prefered/optimal type, lyt or film?
Shall tailresistors sit tight on mosfets or can they be apart? Or rephrased, which ways in the circuit shall be held short?
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C4,5 lytics
C6,9 film
no need for thermocouple of tail resistors and mosfets
as usual - keep everything shortest possible , without making short circuit

Thanks. The last answer was what I thought you were gonna answer when I went to bed yesterday😀. Im at the physical planning stage, where spreading out for cooling purpouses competes with short wires.
So the R4,R7 etc, small resistors connected to bases. Is that some kind of stoppers that shall sit smack on?
Right now I am thinking to split circuit up on three perfboards, one per MOSFET with the connecting comps around them and one cooling element each.
So the R4,R7 etc, small resistors connected to bases. Is that some kind of stoppers that shall sit smack on?
Right now I am thinking to split circuit up on three perfboards, one per MOSFET with the connecting comps around them and one cooling element each.
Yeah. Still my two remaining grays started to fight today😡
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