Hello everyone.
I visited a friend a few days ago and tested his brand new 2x SB16 Ultra woofers, i was mindblown what theese small cabinets can do.
Now i want to build something that can preform as good as the svs woofers.
But im stuck already looking for a nice driver.
Cabinets have to be small but still be able play low frequency.
Right now i got a Crown XLS2505 that can do 2ohm dual 1200w or 4ohm bridged 2400w.
I have found two possible drivers, but they require INSANE ammount of power.
Peerless by Tymphany STW-350F-188PR01-04 15" High Power Subwoofer
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HST-15 mkII 15″ Subwoofer – Stereo Integrity
I visited a friend a few days ago and tested his brand new 2x SB16 Ultra woofers, i was mindblown what theese small cabinets can do.
Now i want to build something that can preform as good as the svs woofers.
But im stuck already looking for a nice driver.
Cabinets have to be small but still be able play low frequency.
Right now i got a Crown XLS2505 that can do 2ohm dual 1200w or 4ohm bridged 2400w.
I have found two possible drivers, but they require INSANE ammount of power.
Peerless by Tymphany STW-350F-188PR01-04 15" High Power Subwoofer
and
HST-15 mkII 15″ Subwoofer – Stereo Integrity
Do they have to play loud as loud as the SB16 subs? How small and low do you need?
Low bass from a small cabinet means it must have a low efficiency, so indeed you need a lot of power.
Low bass from a small cabinet means it must have a low efficiency, so indeed you need a lot of power.
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well, small means under 150L volume, also, it has to go under 20hz -3dB
The SB16 is 16-460Hz (+/-3dB)
The SB16 is 16-460Hz (+/-3dB)
huge waste of energy. heafty driver voice coil with much power just to fit in in a smaller box. could probably tenth the power needed to create 30hz if you doubled the box.
ah, you did say copy, I may stay out of this one.
ah, you did say copy, I may stay out of this one.
The SVS subs use Tymphany drivers built to SVS spec I believe. The Peerless (Tymphany) STW-350 is as close to the SVS SB16 driver as you can get. 150 litres would allow you to build a ported STW-350, that with 2400 Watts would out perform your friends twin SB16, just without the fancy features
Noticed you mentioned 150 litres (5.3 cubic foot) as being small, hope I'm not missing something here as this isn't small IMO. My post above, I'm basically recommending building a SVS PB16 Ultra.
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Got a great price of the UM18 driver, so im going to test this. Hopefully two of theese would give me the power AND output i want. I can infact build 4xUM18 and buy two Crown XLS2505 for under the cost of one SB16 Ultra 😛
If im not happy with the UM18 im gonna try the STW-350.
Got a great price of the UM18 driver, so im going to test this. Hopefully two of theese would give me the power AND output i want. I can infact build 4xUM18 and buy two Crown XLS2505 for under the cost of one SB16 Ultra 😛
If im not happy with the UM18 im gonna try the STW-350.
Do you have some form of parametric EQ available? The XLS2505 only supports high and low pass filters. That is not sufficient to equalize for room resonances.
Little update on my project;
Got two brand new Crown xls2505 amps, first enclosure almost done, bought two um18 drivers, but i only got one now. second one arrives this week. Second box is already precut, so i will build that as soon as the first one is done.
Got two brand new Crown xls2505 amps, first enclosure almost done, bought two um18 drivers, but i only got one now. second one arrives this week. Second box is already precut, so i will build that as soon as the first one is done.
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Thanks for sharing, looks great!
So you're running a XLS 2502 on each driver? That's a lot of power! Better to be over than under though.
2502 is currently in my dream subwoofer build - an approx 5cuft ported STW-350 running off a XLS 2502. Just out of interest, what power does the 2502 take from the mains? Looking in the manual, there's an image with 425W on the back of the amp. Is that what yours says?
Looking forward to seeing more pics, and any measurements. Cheers
So you're running a XLS 2502 on each driver? That's a lot of power! Better to be over than under though.
2502 is currently in my dream subwoofer build - an approx 5cuft ported STW-350 running off a XLS 2502. Just out of interest, what power does the 2502 take from the mains? Looking in the manual, there's an image with 425W on the back of the amp. Is that what yours says?
Looking forward to seeing more pics, and any measurements. Cheers
It says 425w on the back, yes. The STW-350 does probably need two xls2502 to reach full potencial. Im going for this driver if the daytons disapoint me.
Todays lil update: rounded all edges a tiny bit, dont know if i want to round off more yet. Sanded whole box, 50/50 water and glue to seal all open edges, used filler to cover all screwholes.
Todays lil update: rounded all edges a tiny bit, dont know if i want to round off more yet. Sanded whole box, 50/50 water and glue to seal all open edges, used filler to cover all screwholes.
Driver nr two arrived! Mostly boring pictures of filler and sanding. The box might have the final coat tomorrow.
Never used a spraygun so this will be interesting! 😛
Never used a spraygun so this will be interesting! 😛
Looks well put together. Are you intending to staple/fit a thick layer of insulation around the inside of the boxes between the braces?
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