Has anyone tried running one of these drivers down to 600 Hz in an appropriately sized horn with a steep electronic filter?
BMS themselves actually rate it from 500-20 000 Hz.
Seems to handle even 110 db at 600 Hz on the Dayton H812 so I can't imagine it being an issue in a domestic setting:
https://www.justdiyit.com/grand-comparatif-de-compressions-1-pouce/5/
In fact, all of the ones in the above test seems to be fine (with the odd exception of the ND350)
BMS themselves actually rate it from 500-20 000 Hz.
Seems to handle even 110 db at 600 Hz on the Dayton H812 so I can't imagine it being an issue in a domestic setting:
https://www.justdiyit.com/grand-comparatif-de-compressions-1-pouce/5/
In fact, all of the ones in the above test seems to be fine (with the odd exception of the ND350)
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Yes. Small diaphragm CDs can go to 600 and may produce high levels free of distortion in a domestic setting.
You'll still want to pay attention to where the limits are. Cutting with a steep slope helps up to a point. You won't see a benefit from ultra steep slopes and you'll only run into group delay issues and give away your blending region.
You'll still want to pay attention to where the limits are. Cutting with a steep slope helps up to a point. You won't see a benefit from ultra steep slopes and you'll only run into group delay issues and give away your blending region.
Maybe on a long horn at moderate levels.
I have a pair of 5530HE's & PR614's. Just need some adapters to try this.
I have a pair of 5530HE's & PR614's. Just need some adapters to try this.
I have a pair of 5530HE's & PR614's. Just need some adapters to try this.
That's actually the exact horn I'm curious about trying the 5530 in. Was looking at the Eminence HA1-14 adapter. Curious as to how the angles match up.
Ordered a pair of the Eminence adapters last night. I'll try them next weekend.
Ordered a pair of the Eminence adapters last night. I'll try them next weekend.
Ohh! That's exciting 😀Please post the results
LR24 @ 600hz and 4 bands of parametric eq for this response. Listening test with one horn on top of 2x15's.
This combo did much better than I expected! I pushed it to shouting levels at the listening position 4m away.
These can definitely be used down to 600hz in typical domestic settings.
Impressive little driver. I will use these in PA tops crossed at 1khz.
This combo did much better than I expected! I pushed it to shouting levels at the listening position 4m away.
These can definitely be used down to 600hz in typical domestic settings.
Impressive little driver. I will use these in PA tops crossed at 1khz.
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LR24 @ 600hz and 4 bands of parametric eq for this response. Listening test with one horn on top of 2x15's.
This combo did much better than I expected! I pushed it to shouting levels at the listening position 4m away.
These can definitely be used down to 600hz in typical domestic settings.
Impressive little driver. I will use these in PA tops crossed at 1khz.
Thanks for the measurements! Quite the rise in distortion below 900 Hz. Strange though, since the same behaviour isn't observed in the test on the Dayton H812 horn in post 1. Which also loads down to ~600 Hz same as the Ciare.
I think we're seeing the advantage of the exponential flare in the Dayton. It will naturally load the low end better while narrowing high frequency dispersion. It took a lot of eq to push that low in the Ciare.
The Faital HF1440 or JBL D2 are probably the best bet for clean low end and top octave extension from a single diaphragm on a constant directivity device.
That being said...I was surprised to prefer a 600hz crossover vs. 1khz. I was expecting the rise in distortion to really present itself at higher listening levels.
The Faital HF1440 or JBL D2 are probably the best bet for clean low end and top octave extension from a single diaphragm on a constant directivity device.
That being said...I was surprised to prefer a 600hz crossover vs. 1khz. I was expecting the rise in distortion to really present itself at higher listening levels.
I see that in the Voice Coil test but it doesn't show up in this test by audiohorn. I didn't no notice any objectionable resonances.
https://audiohorn.net/test/compression-driver/1inch/
https://audiohorn.net/test/compression-driver/1inch/
Curious, what listening levels do you find acceptable when crossing a 1" compression driver at 600Hz?
55 - 60dB ?
55 - 60dB ?
JBL D2 from a single diaphragm
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Replaced the battery on my spl meter this afternoon. 80-85db average with peaks reaching around 95db at 4m...at least with this driver.Curious, what listening levels do you find acceptable when crossing a 1" compression driver at 600Hz?
55 - 60dB ?
I've certainly heard worse from other 1" drivers crossed on octave higher.
That is impressive. PR614 seems like a legit combo. Did you try any other horns with the 5530HE ?80-85db average with peaks reaching around 95db at 4m...at least with this driver
It's very good...for prosound use it'll do 1khz all day long.
I will be trying the seos 12, QSC waveguide, and the Eminence WG10 over the holidays.
I will be trying the seos 12, QSC waveguide, and the Eminence WG10 over the holidays.
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