Researching next project: 2W Marshall JCM800

Note this is running with reduced voltages initially - I will order some new resistors to increase the voltages and that will give it some additional bite. I will also add the V2 mod and that will also provide bite (although at near unity gain).


So initial impressions:
  • Can sound bluesy
  • Can bark
  • Chuffing loud (97dB/W and 2W)
  • Does have some bass but it's not a bass amp.
 
I’ve managed to nail most of the hum, only two issues at max volume:
  • wide band hiss increasing the noise floor (not so much of an issue)
  • a small amount of 50/100Hz hum, almost gone
  • a spike at 20kHz that seems to be coming through the elevated heaters, so I think this may be some oscilation:
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I will try the normal techniques:
  • dc bench heater
  • reverse the heater wires to give 180 from the B+ phase
  • adjust the artificial tap resistances
  • use a quieter B+ source for the reference.
 
Much better sound now - after a few mods and switching from attempting to use the 8R tape as the NFB to using the 16R tap for the speaker and the NFB.

Clear, clean (for a marshall) and probably over doing the NFB, but still sounding good:


I think now it's a case of ordering the parts to:
  • get the B+ voltages up
  • to fix the 20kHz annoyance
  • various mods for the sound
(a) some diodes distortion or that 80s metal sounds
(b) two extra triode stages and attenuators for unit gain but shaping of the sound
(c) cold clipper changes
  • improve shielding.
  • FX loop
  • 10% volume attenuator so I can crank up the amp to max and keep the neighbours happy.

If the V2 mod turns out to be a loss, I may just double up the V1 and move the cold clip to the V2mod. That parallel doubling up should then reduce the noise floor of the highest sensitivity triode stage.
 
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Update.

So after a bit of experimentation and break in, I've been mulling over:

1. Going to increase voltages
There's a point when you want soft and a point you want crisp, it seems by playing quite a bit with the tube and solid state rectification I can get different sounds.

Solid state - using two UF4007 in series and also looking at using the 230V primary I can get a B+ voltage of 489Vdc. I can then drop down from there as needed. Allowing 390/350/335V B+ for pre-stages and still allow 275V plate for the EF80s. Testing this with the SS but not the primary change gives a good 445Vdc B+. I'll need to make some changes with the caps (the 22uF are 450V rated).
The sound really crisps up nicely but loses that bluesy/early rock tone.
As it stands the SS without the primary mod sits at around 263V EF80 plate, and when at full voltages should drive 1.75W (therefore we should be approx 100dB) - rock on.. Without feedback it's running +3-5dB.. it's uncomfortably loud!

Tube (EZ80) - with the UF4007 on the plate with 333R, has quite a low B+ voltage through the pre and power stages in comparison to the SS rectification. This gives it the more relaxed older bluesy sound through to the early rock sounds. This needs a little bit of tuning but I think I have a longer term solution.

Start up on the SS will have near 500V on the plates and the tubes Vo (cold limit) is 550V, so we still don't need a standby switch or soft start. I will make a switch to go between SS and tube rectification.

Next is the V2 mod. Thankfully I have enough PT power to maintain the higher voltages with two additional triodes. This will essentially make the pre stage:
V1 pre -> cold clipper -> V2mod a -> V2mod b -> V3 pre -> V3 CF -> tone -> LTP -> power stage.
Once that is in place I have a couple of options:
  • It can add a defined gain/attentuated as needed
  • It can add the shaping of distortion
Now if that doesn't work out as intended, there is another option - modifying the front so I could switch in a blues breaker style pre stage. This seems to have a coupled cathode V1a/b stage unlike the cascade of the JCM.
However I suspect that at least one of the V2mod triodes will get used as an optional switchable gain stage. The stage will simply switch the tube signal path into the chain or remove it and ground to reduce noise.

The switchable cold clipper is something I'll put in. I'm not sold on the Soldano distortion sound, preferring the fortin distortion sound which uses the tone stack with smaller coupling caps, a different sloping resistor, pots etc. However I don't like the fortin clean/mid distortion. So I may look at adding a switch for diverting the raw tone input into a different stack. I could do this externally with a bypass effects loop.

The diode clipping mod works, so that gives 1980s in buckets. So that will go on a switch.
I can't find anything more about bjt clipping but I will probably end up making a small bjt clipping board instead and experiment with that (see external fx loop).

I will put in a 16R attenuator that should be capable of 15W into the 1x12. I'm also thinking of a combo amp that is 24"W x 23"H x 11.5"D with off centre speaker with the baffle lent back a little. Looking a bit like an odd blues breaker.
 
This has moved on quite a bit - this afternoon I managed to get time to put the can and amp together:

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Also had a far shorter audio cord so detail has increased. Missing some bass and still need to order all the bits to finish.
Still nees to play around to get a feel for it.

Once the glue has cured, I’ll screw the back on.
 
So what is next?

Some astute people will see a few more switches:

1. Switchable tube/solid state rectification with the solid state adding a second 47uF cap into the power supply. A diode prevents the tube from seeing the additional 47uF.

2. Switch on the back enables switch between using 240V and 230V primaries.

3. mini switches on the front:
  • attenuation bypass - this shorts the top of a 43% Vpp attenuator after the MV before the LTP. This also acts as a bit of a high cut low pass filter. I may add a complete bypass in future but a larger three position switch.
  • asymmetric diodes / off / symmetrical diode clipping - these add a very subtle sparkle it's not like a hard clip
  • tone stack bypass is another I have planned.
  • three way cathode selector but... I have plans to make a switchable JCM800 / JTM45 front end. I have a first iteration design and that will allow switching between the JCM's cascade/cold clipper and JTM shared cathode parallel gain stages. A switch will select the tone slope and a further switch will switch in a pair of volume pots on the back.
  • a switch will be planned as I've also got my spinal tap gain stage mod also planned. If that's too much I could always make that a reverb drive/recovery.

At the moment it has a very bluesy / metal sound depending on the settings however I need a couple of things just to tailor the B+ with the 230V primary setting - this is when I get the best hard sound but the heaters won't last long as they're running at 7V.. A small 150-175mR heater dropper will sort that.