I have an Ian FifoPi in one system fed with an Andrea Mori entry level clock. (TWTMC-PPG). Obviously this has its own psu, doesn't get power from the Fifo. The other crystal is a Crysyek. The fifo will still select the correct clock for a given frequency family as designed.
Does the Kali work in the same way?. So I can remove a crystal and replace with a Mori clock. I understand there may be a couple small smd caps to remove also if using an oscillator and not a standalone smd clock. I have a couple of new clocks from Andrea and a Kali to play with.!
Does the Kali work in the same way?. So I can remove a crystal and replace with a Mori clock. I understand there may be a couple small smd caps to remove also if using an oscillator and not a standalone smd clock. I have a couple of new clocks from Andrea and a Kali to play with.!
Allo uses NDK SDA clocks, and they are pretty careful to in trying to do it right. IME Crystek can be better or worse depending on the implementation. IMHO typical Crystek implementations could be a lot better. Andrea clocks are the best, but expensive by the time a power supply and a sine to square device is added. In addition, Allo typically uses 45/49MHz clock frequencies which is likely what they used for Kali. Phase noise is difficult to get very low at those high-ish frequencies. Best performance there with Andrea clocks would require 11/12Mhz oscillators and two doublers per oscillator. Gets even more expensive to do that. All for a $95 Kali? Probably not worth it for the degree of resulting SQ improvement that might be had. What is the dac that would be used with all this stuff?
Yes same thinking...plus the new layout will introduce more jitter due to the distance.
Tip: sold the Kali, buy a Rpi fifo more, use only one andrea for yohr main listening frequency, keep the Crystek for the 48 khz family material and use my tip about decoupling the crysteck pcb with an acrylic cap...around 1 uF with 0805 case size.
Tip: sold the Kali, buy a Rpi fifo more, use only one andrea for yohr main listening frequency, keep the Crystek for the 48 khz family material and use my tip about decoupling the crysteck pcb with an acrylic cap...around 1 uF with 0805 case size.
People's reviews can be all over the place, especially the ones that made by those who are in audio business.
Well I certainly should have said before to jim04 that the way you power the clock is very important and he should first to try the cleanest he can with low impedance, low noise...some reg circuitry or some reg chip are better than other here. Ndk crystals are good. Maybe it is worthing the effort to try to improve the power supply as a more objectivable result... Ts7A chip from TI as an integrated reg is not bad at all at this game as an external pcb reg...but there is a little smd reg on the Kali so not sure it will pay off.
Yeah unfortunately not. not listed as a part from Panasonic, Cornell, or Rubycon. You can get 1uf in CDE in 1206, but not in 0805. I wish there was a 1uf 0805. Largest you can get in an 0805 package from any brand is 0.22uf afaik. Its not listed as a non-stock item either; simply doesnt exist.
Thanks for all the input....I do have an Ian Fifo....see first line of my post. But I fancied trying another 'fifo' type reclocker and hence bought the kali. Way cheaper than Ian's I got a good deal from a French vendor.
I am aware they have NDK SA. And I think it uses a Ti TPS7A reg so very low impedance.
Certainly it is easier to swap clocks on Ian's due to the sockets. I currently use a Li ion battery psu for the Andrea PPG clock and also have a Salas Reflektor D to try. But I have these new 22 and 24 Mori PXO clocks with the smaller Laptechs and they need a home.
Have used Ians dual ESS dac before but currently running a Miro AD1862 (straight digital front end there at the moment, nothing fancy) , and my Fifo/Mori front ended system feeds Abraxalitos PhiDeca....10 x tda1387 NOS. I prefer the simpler psu requirements over the ESS .
I am aware they have NDK SA. And I think it uses a Ti TPS7A reg so very low impedance.
Certainly it is easier to swap clocks on Ian's due to the sockets. I currently use a Li ion battery psu for the Andrea PPG clock and also have a Salas Reflektor D to try. But I have these new 22 and 24 Mori PXO clocks with the smaller Laptechs and they need a home.
Have used Ians dual ESS dac before but currently running a Miro AD1862 (straight digital front end there at the moment, nothing fancy) , and my Fifo/Mori front ended system feeds Abraxalitos PhiDeca....10 x tda1387 NOS. I prefer the simpler psu requirements over the ESS .
Yeah, checked... you 're rigtht....seems my memory doesn't exist anymore as well or at least in the pico Farad range. It was on the back of the crystek adaptator on iancanada Dual Clock circa 2015. In fact there was two area two 0805 and one 1205... So indeed this is the 1205 I populated. Anyway it will just work fine with 0,22 as well. I found it is balancing what is inside the crysteck can one ceramic class II and one class I.... according to my bad memory.
Maybe due to the dielectric it balances the ligthy, brigthy or too thin somewhat signature the crysteck can have in some layout and system, i.e. if your system is already on the brigth side or climbing side in the mid treble...subjectivly.
I am note sure there is a the TP7A reg on the Kali ??? Do yhe use NDK SA today ? I thought it was the simple not SA version at the beginning? But well my memory is going low and my eyes find 1205 too much big yet...
@ Jim, I beleive you risk more to waste the Kali by swapping the smd NDK...you shohld work onan external power supply for it and play with that eventually.
You are dealing with audio gear, you know, something that's made for what you can hear. What is it worth when time and money you spent didn't result in audible difference?
did you not hear the difference when powering a crystal with a LT3042 and a TP7A reg ? I dunno if it is the chips spec or the layout and the different decoupling at the output but I do hear a difference !
Now it's a hobby as well, free to the op to rank the advice according his monney, envy, time, etc whatever his priorities.
Now it's a hobby as well, free to the op to rank the advice according his monney, envy, time, etc whatever his priorities.
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PJN, it is early days with this PhiDeca dac but it is very promising.
The clocks on the Kali have the same markings as the SDA I bought from DIYINHK
And also this is the thing I thought was a TPS7 reg.
But what it powers exactly i don't know! I'll do some proving and see how things are powered, but I guess I'm on old ground here and someone has probably done all this but I cant find much about the Kali one here, apart from the big test thread but that goes on about the Piano dac a lot.
The clocks on the Kali have the same markings as the SDA I bought from DIYINHK
And also this is the thing I thought was a TPS7 reg.
But what it powers exactly i don't know! I'll do some proving and see how things are powered, but I guess I'm on old ground here and someone has probably done all this but I cant find much about the Kali one here, apart from the big test thread but that goes on about the Piano dac a lot.
Hummm they changed these two parts since the first Kali I knew.
So good improved A version for the crystal...sota reg chip for this job. I will keep this good little board this way and only play on its main external supply.
So good improved A version for the crystal...sota reg chip for this job. I will keep this good little board this way and only play on its main external supply.
It may well have been just a perception stemming from your expectation or aural memory fade. If it really was audible difference, the most likely reasons are, 1) volume level difference, 2) listening position change, which can happen even when no components are changed (important information for you to chew on).