Hi I have 3 yamaha amps as part of a surround sound setup. When I adjust the volume with one remote, it changes the volume on all 3 amps. I've tried half a dozen yamaha remotes and they all do this. I need to be able to control the volume of each amp individually. Is there a solution? Maybe some sort of DIY motorised volume controller or a simpler fix?
Closing the sensor is a solution for someone wanting to stop the remote from working on an amp. It doesn't address my question. I need to be able to control the amps from my sitting position
There is no easy solution to this that I can see... it is just not do-able without it ending up a real dogs dinner. Ideally you need each remote to provide different coding for each amp and for each amp to match that... something some AV equipment such as Sony allows to prevent remote interaction.
A diy solution with separate remotes and separate receivers and volume controls is going to be a mess.
A diy solution with separate remotes and separate receivers and volume controls is going to be a mess.
Can be closed by inclined screens and controlled from different positions of the remote control (as in a shooting range when shooting at a target 🙂
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Hi Found this
Go to page 46.
https://media.kieskeurig.nl/images/01/62/00/29/b7a5/4059/b9f5/2e1393fe9cfd/orig.pdf
Cheers, Tom.
Hi Found this
Go to page 46.
https://media.kieskeurig.nl/images/01/62/00/29/b7a5/4059/b9f5/2e1393fe9cfd/orig.pdf
Cheers, Tom.
Looks like there isn't an easy answer. I dont mind things getting a little messy or having to have three remote controls. That would be a lot easier than selling my amps and having to look for new ones. I have been looking at universal remote controls but I'm not sure if buying one of those might solve the problem. Since it might control the volume on all three amps together anyway, the same as the yamaha remotes do
One way would be with a higher end universal remote, RTI, URC etc. Also Logitech Harmony. If they come with a hub this can often be used to route IR to a particular port and hence bud. You would also need to ensure that each bud only directed its light to the sensor of the amp its connected too. Eg by covering up the bud and sensor with insulation tape.
On the remote you would pick amp a for example and the IR would be directed out of say port A. So you need a device capable of IR routing
Page 46 will also do it
On the remote you would pick amp a for example and the IR would be directed out of say port A. So you need a device capable of IR routing
Page 46 will also do it
You could try controlling the Pre amplifiers with a Bluetooth or cellphone system, thus adjusting main amp volume.
IP addressable systems could be done, but if you break one remote, you would need another with same programming needed.
And remotes have to work on production equipment, also those were probably built before class D became normal, nobody would have thought to use 3 stereo amps together.
Or, simpler still, use long speaker wires, and mount the amps next to your hearing position.
If you use a PC as sound source, some programs are adjustable for surround sound.
IP addressable systems could be done, but if you break one remote, you would need another with same programming needed.
And remotes have to work on production equipment, also those were probably built before class D became normal, nobody would have thought to use 3 stereo amps together.
Or, simpler still, use long speaker wires, and mount the amps next to your hearing position.
If you use a PC as sound source, some programs are adjustable for surround sound.
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Strange setup as you usually only adjust the volume from the main AVR once all speaker levels are set. Such as main amp with pre outs to the other 2 power amps.
Yamaha allows 2 different codes, ID1 and ID2 so you are out of luck with the third one. You could always try set the third one as Zone 2 out if it's a AVR but can't if it's a stereo amp.
You need to set up the other 2 amps as power amps by inputting to the power amp section and by-pass the pre section. If that can't be done then if it's like the later Yamaha stereo amps you can set the volume level as desired and turn off the remote sensor in the Advanced Setup. If that's not available you can fiddle with the Initial and Max volume setting with Initial set at 0.5dB below Max (set at max).
You may want to show how all this is wired and why you need to adjust each amp individually as it's not normal for HT use.
Yamaha allows 2 different codes, ID1 and ID2 so you are out of luck with the third one. You could always try set the third one as Zone 2 out if it's a AVR but can't if it's a stereo amp.
You need to set up the other 2 amps as power amps by inputting to the power amp section and by-pass the pre section. If that can't be done then if it's like the later Yamaha stereo amps you can set the volume level as desired and turn off the remote sensor in the Advanced Setup. If that's not available you can fiddle with the Initial and Max volume setting with Initial set at 0.5dB below Max (set at max).
You may want to show how all this is wired and why you need to adjust each amp individually as it's not normal for HT use.
Thanks. I will look into cellphone remote control systems. Thats worth a try
My setup is unusual but Arcam are to blame for that. I'm using the av888 processor and Arcam in their infinite wisdom have not made it easy to adjust the volume for the individual speakers. So the only solution was to use several integrated amps with separate remote controls. Everything sounds great. But I didn't forsee this problem coming where the remote controls all control every amp simultaneously. Its disappointing that with a £5000 av processor you just can't stick on a song and make volume adjustments to the surround or rear speakers without major hassle. Something that's essential for surround sound listening since not all surround mixes are perfectly judged and anyone who's listened to them would know that sometimes you need to make adjustments to the various speaker levels. I've owned a few receivers and they all can do this easily. The arcam sounds way better than any of them but usability isn't exactly its thing. In fact I'd say its the most user unfriendly device I have. Along with my pono player
My setup is unusual but Arcam are to blame for that. I'm using the av888 processor and Arcam in their infinite wisdom have not made it easy to adjust the volume for the individual speakers. So the only solution was to use several integrated amps with separate remote controls. Everything sounds great. But I didn't forsee this problem coming where the remote controls all control every amp simultaneously. Its disappointing that with a £5000 av processor you just can't stick on a song and make volume adjustments to the surround or rear speakers without major hassle. Something that's essential for surround sound listening since not all surround mixes are perfectly judged and anyone who's listened to them would know that sometimes you need to make adjustments to the various speaker levels. I've owned a few receivers and they all can do this easily. The arcam sounds way better than any of them but usability isn't exactly its thing. In fact I'd say its the most user unfriendly device I have. Along with my pono player
I've had a look at the AV888 manual and speaker levels are done via auto or manual and it's a set and forget arrangement like all others I've used. The AV888 then becomes the master volume.
If using integrated amps, set them all to around 12 o'clock or equivalent and then run the auto setup and do all the volume adjustments via the AV888 (leave the other amp volume levels alone). I've never had the need to adjust channels individually after the initial setup.
I noticed you have the desire to fiddle with mixing levels on certain tracks and if your surround amp allows remote ID changes then you could use ID2 for this amp and leave the others on ID1.
If using integrated amps, set them all to around 12 o'clock or equivalent and then run the auto setup and do all the volume adjustments via the AV888 (leave the other amp volume levels alone). I've never had the need to adjust channels individually after the initial setup.
I noticed you have the desire to fiddle with mixing levels on certain tracks and if your surround amp allows remote ID changes then you could use ID2 for this amp and leave the others on ID1.
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I do know how to set up the AV888 thank you. I've owned it for years. I do have the manual. I have read it. Theres nothing in it that solves my problem. Its looking like the only solution is i'm going to have to sell two of the yamaha amps and buy two more amps by a different manufacturer. And have 4 remotes. Which is a shame as everything was sounding great. Bit annoying to have to start over just because of the remote control freaks. I was hoping there was something out there like a device with a rubber wheel that can attach to the volume knob on the front of the amp which can be controlled via remote. Something that people with older amps can use to convert them into remote controllable units. Im sure there must be something like that somewhere?
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