Refurbishing Marantz Imperial 6 Speakers

The Parts Express phenolic tweeter is different than the original CTS 2T8 which is still available on eBay. The 2T8 is a good performer with a reasonably well damped resonance while the PE replacement has a higher and poorly damped resonance around 2 k, may affect the overall sound of the system. I’d go with the original 2T8 tweeter (look for CTS phenolic ring tweeter on eBay).
 
Those CTS woofers are among the last treated fabric surrounds used in lower priced boxes, before foam took over the world, and are just fine. Yes the crossover can be improved, and the tweeter, but box bracing and internal damping are where to start. And then, and then, and then...
 
Options/recommendations for leftover imperial parts

I have parts left over from a imperial 5g speaker set

CTS tweeter, 8” woofer, and the cross overs

I know it isn’t high end stuff but though this would at least be a fair start to trying to build my first DIY speaker cabinet before moving onto building cabinets with better drivers and cross overs. The price is right for the drivers. Free

The original ported cabinet measures

23H x 12W x 9.5D. Fairly big cabinet for the driver size
I don’t have the port tube size, length

So I originally thought to recreate the imperial 5g cabinets (only drawback is the lack of port tube dimensions)

BUT

With more reading and realizing there are so many more possibilities on cabinet design

Was wondering if anyone else with more experience had any different recommendations
Sealed cabinets?
Aperiodic
Floor standing

I have no idea how to figure out what size or volume would be optimal. I am still learning and reading and asking questions.

I was kind of thinking building a A25 cabinet clone, fitting the drivers and adjusting the port stuffing. If this didn’t work then just get the appropriate 10” driver and seas tweeter and recreate an A25 or a WD25A or a WD25T clone

Thank you for your time
 
Hi,
Some questions for Marantz 5 and 6.
I noticed the tweeter look the same, but in model 6 the dome is bagger.
If you look at the crossovers, in model 6 there are 2 coils. (12dB?) In both the crossover frequentie is 3000Hz.
Is somebody here to say something more about these differances.
Lib
 
Hi there, I am new here and I am looking to get a bit into the DIY audio scene.

To start off I want to refurbish a set of Marantz Imperial 6Gs. I am looking to preserve their inherent qualities, as opposed to trying to make them into a set of speakers they aren't. These won't be the only speakers I tend to own. Right now from what my untrained ears have to tell me, they sound just fine. I have little experience with electronics but I have no problem doing research to learn. What I find difficult is determining what quality speakers to replace the stock ones with, and how important a less or more expensive capacitor and inductors will be.

One of the woofers dome is punctured and both tweeters are dented. I am assuming this can't be repaired and that I'll need to buy a new speakers?

I have uploaded pictures of the speakers as well as schematics.


Here is the list of supplies I'll need to refurbish the speakers. I read here..
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/78350-recapped-imperial-7s-tonight.html

that it would be a good idea to increase the power dissipation in the resistors. So I choose 10w resistors. Though I couldn't find some resistors (at Parts Express) with a 10w buffer. So I listed options for those slots.


If I go to a site like Madi Sound Speaker Store, I can find all of the appropriate resistors and capacitors. Will the Dayton Audio PMPC-6.8 6.8uF be a fine choice for these speakers, or is there any added benifit to geting a more expensive capacitor such as Mundorf 6.8 mfd Supreme Caps. Since I am just starting out, I don't need to jump to extreme Hi-Fi. Probably worth the journey to the top.

All of these parts adds up to ~$230.

Any suggestions for different paths to take? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Daniel

R1
4 ohm 10w resistor

R2
3 ohm 10w resistor
3 ohm 10w resistor

R3
1 ohm 10w resistor

R4
6.2 ohm 5w resistor

R5
8 ohm 5w resistor
OR
8 ohm 20w resistor
OR
8.2 ohm 10w resistor


C1
Dayton Audio PMPC-6.8 6.8uF 250V Precision Audio Capacitor

L1 - 15awg vs 20awg?
Jantzen Audio 1.0mH 15 AWG Air Core Inductor Crossover Coil

L2 - 15awg vs 20awg?
Jantzen Audio 0.60mH 15 AWG Air Core Inductor Crossover Coil

Speaker Replacements

Tweeter Replacement

Woofer Replacement

Future Amplifier Options

I have been considering building the AMP CAMP AMP KIT. Will that kit be able to drive these speakers? Right now these are being used in a small room, and will probably stay there for the foreseeable future. I don't plan on maxing out the volume of the speakers.
Hi I have 2 Marantz Imprial 6 wit 2 different crossover board. Serial nr see diagram.
The older one is like above recomandations.
Which one is beter?
 
Hi there, I am new here and I am looking to get a bit into the DIY audio scene.

To start off I want to refurbish a set of Marantz Imperial 6Gs. I am looking to preserve their inherent qualities, as opposed to trying to make them into a set of speakers they aren't. These won't be the only speakers I tend to own. Right now from what my untrained ears have to tell me, they sound just fine. I have little experience with electronics but I have no problem doing research to learn. What I find difficult is determining what quality speakers to replace the stock ones with, and how important a less or more expensive capacitor and inductors will be.

One of the woofers dome is punctured and both tweeters are dented. I am assuming this can't be repaired and that I'll need to buy a new speakers?

I have uploaded pictures of the speakers as well as schematics.


Here is the list of supplies I'll need to refurbish the speakers. I read here..
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/78350-recapped-imperial-7s-tonight.html

that it would be a good idea to increase the power dissipation in the resistors. So I choose 10w resistors. Though I couldn't find some resistors (at Parts Express) with a 10w buffer. So I listed options for those slots.


If I go to a site like Madi Sound Speaker Store, I can find all of the appropriate resistors and capacitors. Will the Dayton Audio PMPC-6.8 6.8uF be a fine choice for these speakers, or is there any added benifit to geting a more expensive capacitor such as Mundorf 6.8 mfd Supreme Caps. Since I am just starting out, I don't need to jump to extreme Hi-Fi. Probably worth the journey to the top.

All of these parts adds up to ~$230.

Any suggestions for different paths to take? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Daniel

R1
4 ohm 10w resistor

R2
3 ohm 10w resistor
3 ohm 10w resistor

R3
1 ohm 10w resistor

R4
6.2 ohm 5w resistor

R5
8 ohm 5w resistor
OR
8 ohm 20w resistor
OR
8.2 ohm 10w resistor


C1
Dayton Audio PMPC-6.8 6.8uF 250V Precision Audio Capacitor

L1 - 15awg vs 20awg?
Jantzen Audio 1.0mH 15 AWG Air Core Inductor Crossover Coil

L2 - 15awg vs 20awg?
Jantzen Audio 0.60mH 15 AWG Air Core Inductor Crossover Coil

Speaker Replacements

Tweeter Replacement

Woofer Replacement

Future Amplifier Options

I have been considering building the AMP CAMP AMP KIT. Will that kit be able to drive these speakers? Right now these are being used in a small room, and will probably stay there for the foreseeable future. I don't plan on maxing out the volume of the speakers.

Hi there, I am new here and I am looking to get a bit into the DIY audio scene.

To start off I want to refurbish a set of Marantz Imperial 6Gs. I am looking to preserve their inherent qualities, as opposed to trying to make them into a set of speakers they aren't. These won't be the only speakers I tend to own. Right now from what my untrained ears have to tell me, they sound just fine. I have little experience with electronics but I have no problem doing research to learn. What I find difficult is determining what quality speakers to replace the stock ones with, and how important a less or more expensive capacitor and inductors will be.

One of the woofers dome is punctured and both tweeters are dented. I am assuming this can't be repaired and that I'll need to buy a new speakers?

I have uploaded pictures of the speakers as well as schematics.


Here is the list of supplies I'll need to refurbish the speakers. I read here..
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/78350-recapped-imperial-7s-tonight.html

that it would be a good idea to increase the power dissipation in the resistors. So I choose 10w resistors. Though I couldn't find some resistors (at Parts Express) with a 10w buffer. So I listed options for those slots.


If I go to a site like Madi Sound Speaker Store, I can find all of the appropriate resistors and capacitors. Will the Dayton Audio PMPC-6.8 6.8uF be a fine choice for these speakers, or is there any added benifit to geting a more expensive capacitor such as Mundorf 6.8 mfd Supreme Caps. Since I am just starting out, I don't need to jump to extreme Hi-Fi. Probably worth the journey to the top.

All of these parts adds up to ~$230.

Any suggestions for different paths to take? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Daniel

R1
4 ohm 10w resistor

R2
3 ohm 10w resistor
3 ohm 10w resistor

R3
1 ohm 10w resistor

R4
6.2 ohm 5w resistor

R5
8 ohm 5w resistor
OR
8 ohm 20w resistor
OR
8.2 ohm 10w resistor


C1
Dayton Audio PMPC-6.8 6.8uF 250V Precision Audio Capacitor

L1 - 15awg vs 20awg?
Jantzen Audio 1.0mH 15 AWG Air Core Inductor Crossover Coil

L2 - 15awg vs 20awg?
Jantzen Audio 0.60mH 15 AWG Air Core Inductor Crossover Coil

Speaker Replacements

Tweeter Replacement

Woofer Replacement

Future Amplifier Options

I have been considering building the AMP CAMP AMP KIT. Will that kit be able to drive these speakers? Right now these are being used in a small room, and will probably stay there for the foreseeable future. I don't plan on maxing out the volume of the speakers.