Redeemer circuit ( for Guitars )

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Looks to me like $49 worth of hype.

The worst thing about this gadget is that it makes your guitar dependent on a battery. The battery usually goes flat just when you most want the guitar.

A good beginners DIY project for guitar is a portable battery amp (combo). You can often re-use existing speakers or amplifiers such as an old car radio, or you can build from scratch pretty cheap.

Be careful of getting distracted by electronics, it can be a lot of fun, but getting a good sound is mostly about practice and what you do with your fingers.

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no I have passive jackson stock pickups, someone suggested me that redeemer can make it sound much better.

What are you feeding it in to?, any proper guitar amp has a suitable high impedance input, the only (very slight) cause of concern is the guitar cable capacitance - and that has minimal effect on sensible length leads.

Does your guitar sound much worse than other peoples active guitars?, as the best it can do is make it similar to an actrive (but still with much inferior tone controls).

As wakibaki says, it's just hype - trying to sell a few cents worth of parts for $49.
 
This is what I put in my Guitar ....

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Sounds great !!! aint worth $49 , it"s got about $5 worth of parts and can be built in less than an hour , Ive installed several in friends guitars ......
 
@ Nigel,
I use a zoom g1 processor and a Behringer v-tone 108 amp, my problem is when I play guitar I have to make a trade off between sustain of notes and clarity of notes.
and noise is so much that, even the noise gate on my guitar processor surrenders to it.

@Minion,
thanks, I think this is good to start with. please tell me more about the sound difference after installing it on guitar.
 
@ Nigel,
I use a zoom g1 processor and a Behringer v-tone 108 amp, my problem is when I play guitar I have to make a trade off between sustain of notes and clarity of notes.
and noise is so much that, even the noise gate on my guitar processor surrenders to it.

And why would you expect this circuit to help that in any way?.

Using sustain or overdrive is noisey because of the huge gains involved.

@Minion,
thanks, I think this is good to start with. please tell me more about the sound difference after installing it on guitar.

The IC preamp shown only has an input impedance of 480K, which is pretty middling as guitar inputs go. But it gives a gain of about 20 times, and reduces any effects of the cable following it.

You'll certainly hear a difference, but only because of the extra gain.

Incidently, if you've got an active DI box, this has a high input impedance and a low output impedance and will have a similar 'effect' to the 'redeemer'.
 
when I play guitar I have to make a trade off between sustain of notes and clarity of notes.
and noise is so much that, even the noise gate on my guitar processor surrenders to it.

That's life...

The Jackson pickups you have have a reasonable reputation. Get a Fender, Marshall, Vox, Orange, Peavey or other amplifier with a good reputation, preferably a valve (tube) one, although this is not essential, it doesn't have to be very powerful either. Listen to some amps on YouTube.

Learn to get the best out of the equipment you have. Changing the action of your guitar, the gauge of the strings and the pickup-to-string spacing can have a big effect on the clarity and sustain. Read some web pages on guitar set-up. Setting up the guitar can take a long time the first time, because you don't know where you are going and you have to try many variations. Sometimes you have to accept that the guitar will be harder work to play if you are going to get the sound that you want.

It's a mistake to think that more electronics is the answer once you've got a decent amplifier and guitar. After you've got those you can't really buy a good sound.

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@ Nigel,
I use a zoom g1 processor and a Behringer v-tone 108 amp, my problem is when I play guitar I have to make a trade off between sustain of notes and clarity of notes.
and noise is so much that, even the noise gate on my guitar processor surrenders to it.

@Minion,
thanks, I think this is good to start with. please tell me more about the sound difference after installing it on guitar.

there are way too many factors listed there that won't be helped in any way with this circuit.

to be very frank (and don't take this in a bad way, but i tend to call a spade a spade) - your equipment is quite nasty and noise generating itself. this circuit is not going to help - at the most, your noise levels may just go up.

what guitar do you play?

there are better options available now, even in our country. i didn't have too many/couldn't afford them 12 years ago, so i got into DIY and got hooked. particularly with tube amps.
 
hmm, I like to play melodic death metal, I am interested in getting sounds like Opeth and Meshuggah( proper type nose bleeding metal ), their sounds are so precisely brutal and yet so distinctly melodic.

I ve been trying to make some sound like that since ages, not much success till now.
 
Opeth and Meshuggah

Well, I wasn't familiar with either of these, but I went on YouTube and had a listen, of the 2 I preferred Opeth, but neither seem to have a sound that is problematic to recreate. Evidently they like Laney and Line 6 amps respectively (from a bit of googling) but you should be able to get a reasonable approximation with one of the DFX Marshall models.

The Meshuggah number I listened to had a lot of percussive effect, this is obtained by striking the strings hard while fretting them very loosely or just damping them with the left hand.

Like I said already, a few class items of equipment, a good set-up, then it's all down to how you play.

One thing, you should have an acoustic guitar and learn to get a good sound out of that. An entry level Yamaha F-310 is a good starting place, but buy it from a shop that will set it up properly for you. Play a few, you will notice they are different, pick the one with the fullest sound, then get them to set it up. Don't expect to take it away the same day. Make sure that every string, every fret plays without buzzing before you accept it, with the exception perhaps only of the topmost frets on the low strings, and even these should work pretty good. Sight down the neck on both sides from both ends, you should see only the tiniest bow away from the strings. This shows as a tiny gap between the frets and strings when you fret the strings simultaneously at the first and topmost frets. There should be no lumps.

Get a set of medium-light bronzewound strings that have a wound third to put on when you get home. Shop strings have been played, and will not reveal the best a guitar has to offer. Look on the net and see how to attach the strings to the tuning heads with as few turns as possible. Cut off the excess with pliers. Grab the strings near the soundhole and pull hard sideways and away from the body and jerk them around as you fit them to stretch and bed them in as quickly as possible and make sure they will not slip.

An acoustic should be harder to play than your electric, but this will toughen up your fingertips, your muscles and your barré.

You should have a plain (unwound) 3rd on your electric.

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