What, bad example, I see Cal as one of the few speaker construction experts here. If I will ever attempt to build my own speakers, I can do the first design iteration (I know the basic plot) but when it comes to construction I know where to ask.
Sorry, I must have been confused by
so don't ever be confused, mods are regular guys too just like the rest of the membership, and when you do not see thesign then we are not posting as mods but as a regular members..
I'm old enough around to know that much about the moderation team.
LOL, that's pretty funny. We regularly get called:
- Stasi (no moderators are East German)
- KGB (no moderators are Russian)
- Gestapo (no moderators were alive during WWII)
- American Thugs (The majority of mods are outside the USA)
- Subjectiivists (some are)
- Science Nazis (see above)
- Iron fisted bureaucrats (pussycats, actually)
- Illuminati (no comment)
But God? That's a new one. Thanks! Disappointingly, moderators are just regular people who are also members here. The vast majority of mod work is janitorial. Much of that involves approving newbie posts, cleaning up duplicate posts and banning spammers. Things that are mostly invisible and unimportant to the general membership.
I'd say those things are all important to the forum.
I don't recall the last time I saw spam on here, so you guys are doing a great job.
I've abandoned boards in the past due to them being so heavily contaminated with spambots..
please keep on reporting if you see one...nowadays, with a one touch ban and clean, spammers are killed as fast as they post...
True. I suppose "unimportant" isn't a good term. I just meant it's not something most people see and worry about, or complain about.
One of the key things is that we do not moderate on technical things. We may occasionally moderate due to safety concerns, but that is it. There is also such a wide variety of subjects posted on here that it would not be possible to be a guru in all areas (I would not consider myself to be a guru in any!)
The best way to think of moderators is as just normal members who have a few additional responsibilities to keep the place operating as smoothly as possible.
This is the subsection on Moderation from the rules page.
I thought there was a comment about Moderators being normal members in there but apparently not.diyAudio is a MODERATED FORUM:
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We have been straying into the last point in this thread. Probably a good time to finish up specific talk about moderation!
Tony.
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Sorry to say I still cannot understand a single word of what you write - alas, I will never be a guru.
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Oh! Seems someone else other than me upvoted this thread!
I voted for four stars yesterday because it's picked up a bit, but nothing happened then.
So:
No Guru status.
Yes Beginner section with more documented, and relatively easy builds (possibly some kit based like ACA?).
Nnnnnyay?! "Like" button.
Nnnnnyay?! to my "Wonder if there could be some other measure or "Quality badge" that could be in the "Donation badge" area." (post 675)
... And no fireworks button to trigger stuff outside of Jasons house?
Did I miss anything?
I voted for four stars yesterday because it's picked up a bit, but nothing happened then.
So:
No Guru status.
Yes Beginner section with more documented, and relatively easy builds (possibly some kit based like ACA?).
Nnnnnyay?! "Like" button.
Nnnnnyay?! to my "Wonder if there could be some other measure or "Quality badge" that could be in the "Donation badge" area." (post 675)
... And no fireworks button to trigger stuff outside of Jasons house?
Did I miss anything?
Yes. For some reason, in audio (and radio antennas), false information is often more popular and deemed more helpful than the truth.leadbelly said:
Yes. In many areas there is an objective measure (does it accord with known and accepted science) but not all accept this objective measure. They prefer mystery.
Sometimes a thread starter will specify that he is not interested in replies based on sound engineering principles, although that is not exactly how he will phrase it. In most cases I respect his wishes and keep away from such threads, but sometimes the temptation to join in overwhelms me - especially when complete nonsense is being taught to newbies as though it were established fact. Of course, such thread starters never seem to feel obliged to stay away from engineering-based discussions in other threads.scott wurcer said:
To me, the moderators are chosen from the members that are well above average posters, because more often than not, are hanging out on diyaudio. Also members in different time zones, like yourself, allows for blanket police coverage.
You guy are doing a great job of keeping things boring.
Sorry to say I still cannot understand a single word of what you write - alas, I will never be a guru.
I think syn08 is simply alluding to the fact that the medical and science community makes measurements far more sensitive than anything involved with audio. There are frequently posted articles on how small the movements of hairs are in the ear but frankly LIGO, for instance, is orders of magnitude more sensitive.
And my apologies, I consider anyone coming into an established community and requesting accommodations as having an agenda. Nothing personal at all, discussing moderation should be offline. I have BTW left forums where the moderation allowed certain offensive behaviors that bothered me.
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We have programming teams as no individual is always correct and perfect in the simplicity of their execution -at all times.
the complexity shows that people are alive, and that's a good thing. Perfection is a form of death, so be careful what you wish for.
"Some" is all you should be hoping for. Hand on the wheel - on the road of chaos.... is as good as it is ever going to get, and that's only if you are lucky.
the complexity shows that people are alive, and that's a good thing. Perfection is a form of death, so be careful what you wish for.
"Some" is all you should be hoping for. Hand on the wheel - on the road of chaos.... is as good as it is ever going to get, and that's only if you are lucky.
Pseudo science, false information, and just plain BS exists anywhere that there is money to be made by selling or promoting such.
I think the worst examples existed in the automotive market especially in the 70's during the upturn in fuel prices....
There were all sorts of gadgets to improve fuel consumption or even the whole "run your car on water" over unity energy scheme, which is still making the rounds in different forms like "free electricity."
When noise FIGURE measurements become too imprecise for tiny numbers, we use noise TEMPERATURE measurements, referenced to absolute zero. At zero degrees Kelvin, all thermal noise ceases. 30K is a low noise system.
These numbers are typically seen in RF amplifiers, and systems. When I worked on 4GHz TV satellite receivers in the 1980's 100K was a good system.
LIGO is a large scale laboratory with deep space receiving antennas capable of "hearing" very weak signals, due to the system's low internal noise.
Parametric amplifiers are made by modulating the parameters of a semiconductor device by a large RF signal. The semiconductor was usually a tunnel diode or a varactor diode. These could amplify without using resistors or a DC power supply, thereby eliminating two common noise sources. Common in the 70's and 80's, but today usually seen only in extremely high frequency RF systems.
We look at the whole "system" for it's ability to detect, monitor, and make some sense out of low level signals. The same is true of our audio "systems" and that system extends from the source to the listener's brain. I know that my hearing has a much worse S/N ratio than most due to severe tinnitus, so my audio system will never be as good as the same system with a different listener in the chair.
I understood most of what he wrote. I did have to look up "LIGO." Does that make me a "guru?" Maybe if this was an RF design forum, I could be considered an "expert" by certainly not a "guru."
In this forum I am well known for squeezing the most out of tubes. I am "knowledgable" in the solid state world, but a flat rookie in the DSP and speaker building world. NOBODY is an expert in all aspects of the Audio world....it's too broad and changes too fast.
Therein lies the root of the problem. If it were only you, it wouldn't be a problem. But it's a widespread behavior.
Even if we had distinct Objective and Subjective sections of the forums, people with the opposing philosophies would still jump in to tell everyone how wrong they are.
Maybe that's just the nature of online discussion.
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