Hey Guys,
I need your advice&instructions.A friend of mine can get me 5N silver foil which I think best suits for interconnects and power cables .It can be either 1.5m"m*0.05m"m or 2.5m"m*0.3m"m which size is better suited for IC or power cables or by any chance for speaker cables ? Could anyone instruct me how to coat&shield these 5N silver foil to perfection if I want to build few pairs of 1.25-1.5m for XLR digital and analog interconnects&power cables as well as speaker cables if possible with either of the above sizes ?
The 5N silver foil is quite expensive,but I've read that once it's built properly-you forget the issue of cables once for all !
I'd be grateful to get any pertinent assistance.
I need your advice&instructions.A friend of mine can get me 5N silver foil which I think best suits for interconnects and power cables .It can be either 1.5m"m*0.05m"m or 2.5m"m*0.3m"m which size is better suited for IC or power cables or by any chance for speaker cables ? Could anyone instruct me how to coat&shield these 5N silver foil to perfection if I want to build few pairs of 1.25-1.5m for XLR digital and analog interconnects&power cables as well as speaker cables if possible with either of the above sizes ?
The 5N silver foil is quite expensive,but I've read that once it's built properly-you forget the issue of cables once for all !
I'd be grateful to get any pertinent assistance.
I would rather stick to commercially available wire. If it needs to be silver, definitely OCC.
The 5Ns are meaningless with respect to sound if the metal has not been properly annealed.
Silver + foil usually spells intolerable brightness to me, but of course your taste may differ.
To be honest i dislike pure silver in most shapes and forms. Even the best OCC has the tonal balance off to my ears even though it gives the impression of great detail and more air.
YMMV 🙂
The 5Ns are meaningless with respect to sound if the metal has not been properly annealed.
Silver + foil usually spells intolerable brightness to me, but of course your taste may differ.
To be honest i dislike pure silver in most shapes and forms. Even the best OCC has the tonal balance off to my ears even though it gives the impression of great detail and more air.
YMMV 🙂
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Thanks Mate,my mistake-the 5N silver Foil is soft annealed-I simply forgot to mention it in my question
Thanks Mate,my mistake-the 5N silver Foil is soft annealed-I simply forgot to mention it in my question
I've still got a roll of it that I bought years ago. I'll get around to making something with it eventually. I do like silver interconnects, they sound very clean indeed.
The idea of silver-foil IC's reminds me of Allen Wright's cables...they should be mentioned in his "The SuperCables CookBook" and you can probably find some more information about them on this forum or elsewhere on the web.
Yes, in fact that's where I bought the roll of silver foil. I was also the person who suggested using teflon as the separator, he asked me what I thought he should use when I visited him in Munich in 2000. He was a bit puzzled about how to attach the foil to the teflon until he remembered a double-sided tape he used in photography many years earlier.
Here's a photo of a prototype pair that I haven't used for about 15 years. They're in need of a little work ...
Here's a photo of a prototype pair that I haven't used for about 15 years. They're in need of a little work ...
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What a great story -thanks for sharing!
I would have loved to meet Allen Wright in person (RIP)...I still have his modded Sony 777ES SACD-Player that was once his reference in my system to this day and it still gets regular use. I have thought about replacing the Redel connectors for the balanced outputs many times, but than I always remember how highly he spoke of them and just mounted a pair of them in my preamp some time ago 🙂
I would have loved to meet Allen Wright in person (RIP)...I still have his modded Sony 777ES SACD-Player that was once his reference in my system to this day and it still gets regular use. I have thought about replacing the Redel connectors for the balanced outputs many times, but than I always remember how highly he spoke of them and just mounted a pair of them in my preamp some time ago 🙂
I knew Allen for 36 years, and worked with him in at least three (four maybe) different companies. In fact I ran one of his businesses when he went to the US in the late '70s. He also lived at my place in Bondi for several months. He was a very enthusiastic and curious guy, always trying something new. I count him as one of the closest friends I ever had.
That SACD player is one model that I tried to buy, but supply had dried up by the time I heard about them. Treasure it! Thankfully I did manage to jump on a few really good Oppo units right after the company closed, so I'm set for signal sources now.
That SACD player is one model that I tried to buy, but supply had dried up by the time I heard about them. Treasure it! Thankfully I did manage to jump on a few really good Oppo units right after the company closed, so I'm set for signal sources now.
Wow...thanks for sharing again.
That's true -it was hard to get my hands on his 777, but somehow I did and yes I treasure it and even have several replacement parts just in case.
That's true -it was hard to get my hands on his 777, but somehow I did and yes I treasure it and even have several replacement parts just in case.
Hey Haiqu, greetings from Tucson, Az! (I was actually born in Sydney many moons ago). Myself and another member were trying to get a copy of the books, to no avail. Apparently vaccuumstate is no longer doing commercial business and are not responding to emails. Any chance we could pay you to photocopy them and ship? Or even better, scan and email? Cheers, Christopher.
Hi Vintage717,
The books are still online and the checkout basket still works. Hanni often takes a while to respond but they are available.
http://www.vacuumstate.com/?rubrik=...=%DA%F7%ED%C3%87%A9%250Ds&b=739263.8284990146
Rob
The books are still online and the checkout basket still works. Hanni often takes a while to respond but they are available.
http://www.vacuumstate.com/?rubrik=...=%DA%F7%ED%C3%87%A9%250Ds&b=739263.8284990146
Rob
If there is glue (double sided tape) in between foil and teflon, it no longer is teflon dielectric, but the glue itself.He was a bit puzzled about how to attach the foil to the teflon until he remembered a double-sided tape he used in photography many years earlier.
I prefer foil in everything, i utilize them in power supply cables as well, so go foil 🙌😁
Copper or silver,its the proccessing that makes it audiophile,/no thats not a word is it/. Upocc cu or ag is the way to go.think neotech.they hsve a vast range of bulk cable to experiement with. And no im not getting into any debate on this topic.
I wrote up "pasta wire' many years ago. I created a flat silver foil passing silver wire through a pasta machine. I then passed it through teflon tubing. The edges rested on the walls and were the only contact with the teflon. The rest was an air dielectric. I soldered the foil to solid wire that could be passed through the tubing.
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