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    Building, troubleshooting and testing of these amplifiers should only be
    performed by someone who is thoroughly familiar with
    the safety precautions around high voltages.

PSU with Choke for Loftin-White 2A3

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Ohm's Law and Kirchoff's two laws are very different animals. Ohm's Law is approximately true for many conductors (the 'ohmic' ones!) and not true for others (e.g. some semiconductors or semiconductor arrangements). It is not a law of nature.

That is not really an example. But since you touch on semiconductors, the refinement of Beta DC formulas are still needed in semiconductor theory.
 
Here is a scope shot. To visualize what is happening.
GM70 Single Ended Amp. I'm going to say with a moderate amount of capacitance.
Power supply is 30uF>1.5H>135uF>1.5H>135uF Voltage at last cap 1060v
Blue trace is measured at the last 135uF cap.
Yellow trace is secondary of output transformer with 6.8 ohm load or about 10 watts continuous @42Hz (~low E on bass guitar)
 

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You tell me what you mean by the "basic gain formula" of "Beta DC" and I will tell you whether I have prior knowledge of this. If you simply mean the definition of DC current gain in a BJT then I have known such trivial things for many decades, and I can't see how that is relevant to this thread. I am beginning to think you are just trolling.
 
so there is two ways you can go filtering with c-l-c: high capacitance, low inductance or low capacitance and high inductance.

It is not the same thing. High L and low C will give high output impedance. High C and low L will give lower impedance, looking from the amp side of the supply.

At this respect, Mr Langford Smith in his "Radiotron" says, at page 1192 of chapter 31:
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Please note that it is intended to be a good engineered device, and not necessarily a good "sounding" set, as "audiophiles" say.
 

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Interesting that it says that not much will be gained by going beyond two sections. We still regularly see newbies wanting to try four or five sections in a vain attempt to get very small ripple and hence very small hum; they don't realise that ripple and hum are often limited by other issues such as grounding and unwanted coupling.

Ripple is, of course, not the issue being discussed here but DavesNotHere might not realise this.
 
I agree. The problem is (in my opinion), that nobody reads anything and believes that making a couple of sets mediocrily designed, using "audio grade" materials, they have sufficient knowledge to discuss 'till the Kirchhoff laws, or reinvent the wheel.

Those magnificent old books (Terman, Seely, Wallman, Gray) are full of well proved knowledge, with lots of maths and demonstration. Buy I believe few people nowadays can understand them. His limits are a poor PC simulation ignoring that simulations are only simulations.

I still prefer to read and learn and not to "try and cut", or worse, the new "Ctrl-C Ctrl-V" habit without knowing what do they paste, or from who.
 
Yes, I love the old textbooks too; they are much clearer in their explanations. I find the same thing with physics textbooks in well established topics. For instance, the Landau and Lifshitz books, about which so many students complain, are really beautifully written and clear when you can cope with the maths.
 
It is not the same thing. High L and low C will give high output impedance. High C and low L will give lower impedance, looking from the amp side of the supply.

At this respect, Mr Langford Smith in his "Radiotron" says, at page 1192 of chapter 31:
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Please note that it is intended to be a good engineered device, and not necessarily a good "sounding" set, as "audiophiles" say.


still doesn't matter. You can build it with low capacitance, and high inductance or high capacitance and low inductance.

the first one has been the norm when tubes was a mainstream device.

classic design vs modern. but you guys are a waste of time.
 
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still doesn't matter. You can build it with low capacitance, and high inductance or high capacitance and low inductance.
Only if ripple is the only consideration. It isn't. Impedance at a wide range of frequencies matters too.

classic design vs modern. but you guys are a waste of time.
No, not classic vs. modern design. Informed vs. ignorant design, maybe. The Mods may wish to remind you of forum rules.
 
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