Powering a LED from the input signal in a passive loudspeaker?

It's for a concert hall, the idea is only to enhance the visual presence of the speaker.


I understand some batteries would do the job but I think it would be a much elegant design if the energy could be taken from the audio signal.
In a concert hall, the level will be substantial.
All you need is a small bridge rectifier made of schottky diodes, isolated by a 100 ohm pre-limiting resistor, a largish filter/memory cap, a CCS limiter and a LED.
It will only go off during the complete silence periods
 
Here are two example circuits; you may need to adapt the values to suit your exact requirements, but it should provide you with a working, starting base.
The circuit on the left uses a doubler, and should react at ~1/2 the level of the one on the right.

The choice depends on the output power of the amplifiers.

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This is really cool... I'm going to play with this. Stupid question: What's the function of the zener diodes?

I don't know, I can't just see what they could possibly do.

First thought is reverse voltage protection for the LED's but 20 volts is high and ordinary diodes would 100% block everything negative. In normal forward biased mode both work with a similar forward volt drop and provide the incremental steps to light the LED's in sequence.

Think of it at DC and what happens if you applied +100 volts DC across the series caps and then -100 volts. The first Zener would conduct at 20 volts + the LED breakdown voltage when reverse biased...

So no idea what he is thinking on that.

This shows the total rail voltage (V+ and v-) available for the LED's and the LED currents in response to a 5 volt peak sine input lasting 200 cycles at 1kHz. The LED models do not correctly conduct at breakdown in a reverse direction but if you are interested then you can either short them or parallel them with Zeners and diodes to approximate a breakdown condition when reverse biased.
 

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I don't know, I can't just see what they could possibly do.

First thought is reverse voltage protection for the LED's but 20 volts is high and ordinary diodes would 100% block everything negative. In normal forward biased mode both work with a similar forward volt drop and provide the incremental steps to light the LED's in sequence.

Think of it at DC and what happens if you applied +100 volts DC across the series caps and then -100 volts. The first Zener would conduct at 20 volts + the LED breakdown voltage when reverse biased...

So no idea what he is thinking on that.

This shows the total rail voltage (V+ and v-) available for the LED's and the LED currents in response to a 5 volt peak sine input lasting 200 cycles at 1kHz. The LED models do not correctly conduct at breakdown in a reverse direction but if you are interested then you can either short them or parallel them with Zeners and diodes to approximate a breakdown condition when reverse biased.
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