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Power tube cathode bias (CCS)

Your explanation is clear, it's easy moving the crank but a little less with maths 🙂 Why not to use, for example, 6H30 tube (Audio Research used them too...): higher plate current and higher μ. A part this, I feel that on driving low Z headphones I would go for OT instead.


Steve Bench used 6H30 in his very odd no resisters, no capacitors amplifier. It delivered 2 watts to the load.🙂
Low mu, high Gm tubes are best suited for OTL operation.
 
bmx,
I recently tried CCS in the cathodes of my 300B. It was a NOS Motorola gold pin LM317 with the help of a powerful Mills resistor.
Good, really very good sound. Surprising to me, I admit.
I ordered the 10M90S just for the next test.

Best DIYing.
 
Right, TL783 may be another solution I didn't think and didn't use yet. Can you show a small draw of yours with I(L)? Thanks

I configure it as a 2 pin current source and drop it in place of the cathode resistor.
 

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...or you could put a voltage regulator instead of a CCS under the power tube and dispense with the bypass cap. That's how the 833s in my amps are set up, with a shunt regulator maintaining the cathode voltage.
 
Piling on...
What would be the difference between using a voltage regulator for cathode bias and a voltage reference for cathode bias?
Aren't these both ways of creating fixed bias operation?

SY's Red Light District EL84 amp uses lots of red LEDs in the cathodes of the push-pull EL84s, for fixed bias operation.
https://www.syclotron.com/the-red-light-district-p3/

How would replacing the red LEDs with a voltage regulator be substantially different?
 
I'd never use voltage sources or LEDs on the cathode for biasing push-pull output stages. If I have enough B+ and not a lot of cathode current (up to 5W o the resistor) I use separate resistor/cap for self-bias. Makes my life easier matching the tubes. If I'm short of B+ or dealing with big cathode currents then I use the fixed bias with a negative supply for the grid.

For SE I always go for self-bias.
 
I use the regulator to sink the 833 cathode current while maintaining the proper cathode voltage of 247V. The amp is two-stage direct-coupled with 216V on the grid of the 833. The use of a regulator fed from the B+ supply of the input stage allows me to avoid stacked power supplies.
 

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If you put a voltage regulator, would that not defeat the idea of using cathode bias for current runaway protection and easy of matching? What would be the advantage of using a voltage regulator for the cathode vs fixed bias?
The amp is using adjustable fixed bias. Bias can be adjusted at either the 833 grid or cathode. Adjusting at the grid of course also affects the 6E5P input stage.
 
I use the regulator to sink the 833 cathode current while maintaining the proper cathode voltage of 247V. The amp is two-stage direct-coupled with 216V on the grid of the 833. The use of a regulator fed from the B+ supply of the input stage allows me to avoid stacked power supplies.
Understood. A DC-coupled output stage is a different beast.