Looking for interest in OPA2134 group buy at the bottom of this page http://www.diyaudio.com/wiki/index.php?page=Active+Filter+Boards+
Not a GB yet, but discounts get pretty substantial fairly quickly. Please express your interest on the WIKI page
Not a GB yet, but discounts get pretty substantial fairly quickly. Please express your interest on the WIKI page
Does anyone know if it is possible to buy the OPA's straight from TI?
I know the MOQ is 1000 pcs, but ti.com quotes a price of $1.10 each vs. digikey's $1.4125/$1.365 each for 500+/1000+ quantities, meaning that we get 780 opamps at digikey for the same cost as 1000 from TI. If I could get more opamps for my money I wouldn't complain
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I know the MOQ is 1000 pcs, but ti.com quotes a price of $1.10 each vs. digikey's $1.4125/$1.365 each for 500+/1000+ quantities, meaning that we get 780 opamps at digikey for the same cost as 1000 from TI. If I could get more opamps for my money I wouldn't complain

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Interestingly, today's price 1000+ from digikey for shipping to Germany is €1.156 including customs + VAT (about 19%). At today's exchange rate, this is $1,37. So are they effectively 20% more expensive in the US?
better ?
6172 is a fancier opamp than 2134, but more difficult to work with, (oscillates easier), and therefore need a better layout & psu.
I actually prefer 2132 to 2134...
Arne K
6172 is a fancier opamp than 2134, but more difficult to work with, (oscillates easier), and therefore need a better layout & psu.


Arne K
As we approach 1,000 unit interest, TI's latest lead time is 12+ weeks - they are running a batch of 10K+ for 12 June shipment.
I could wait that long, to save a few bucks. Other opinions?
I could wait that long, to save a few bucks. Other opinions?
I'm all in favor of getting the cheapest price. I'm skeptical that they would deal with us for a 1-shot 1KU order.
Bob--have you actually talked to anyone at TI to see if they can do anything for us?
I'm adding my interest to the WIKI, and that should put us squarely above 1K.
--Greg
Bob--have you actually talked to anyone at TI to see if they can do anything for us?
I'm adding my interest to the WIKI, and that should put us squarely above 1K.
--Greg
Andrew,AndrewT said:Put me in for 30 off OPA2134
I've added your 30 - OPA2134's to the list.
IA
Anyone use the StMircrotronics TSH22, $0.73 for 1000 pieces or more.
At mouser:
http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?han...uctid=317457&e_categoryid=268&e_pcodeid=51123
Producet spec.:
http://www.st.com/stonline/books/pdf/docs/4473.pdf
At mouser:
http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?han...uctid=317457&e_categoryid=268&e_pcodeid=51123
Producet spec.:
http://www.st.com/stonline/books/pdf/docs/4473.pdf
I am not clear on the wiki GB for OPA2134's.
Is that just EU members, and is that in euros?
And if so. will another be likely to be run for US members?
It would pay me and others in this region to jump on one or other of the GB.
Is that just EU members, and is that in euros?
And if so. will another be likely to be run for US members?
It would pay me and others in this region to jump on one or other of the GB.
Re: better ?
Please forgive my ignorance; not being an op-amp expert, these statements confuse me a bit. I'm looking at a 3-way x-over with 2 boards (on each side), should I not use the 2134 for the Mid-Tweet cross (~1500)? With these boards and the associated PSU you guys are putting together, is the 6172 ok or should I be concerned with oscillation problems?
Thanks
John
BobEllis said:so with OPA2134s you'll have to be careful to keep the crossover frequency below 800 KHz, although distortion does hit .001% by 20 KHz.
Cobra2 said:6172 is a fancier opamp than 2134, but more difficult to work with, (oscillates easier), and therefore need a better layout & psu.
I actually prefer 2132 to 2134...
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Arne K
Please forgive my ignorance; not being an op-amp expert, these statements confuse me a bit. I'm looking at a 3-way x-over with 2 boards (on each side), should I not use the 2134 for the Mid-Tweet cross (~1500)? With these boards and the associated PSU you guys are putting together, is the 6172 ok or should I be concerned with oscillation problems?

Thanks
John
John,
With any circuit you should be concerned with oscillation. The 6172s are more prone to problems than the 2134s. Board layout is a factor.
Given Jens' board design experience and day job, I suspect that 6172s will be fine. However, the only way to know for sure is to build up a set.
You should have no problems using OPA2134s for all positions. Some people like the bottom end of the NE5532 better than the 2134, and build bass sections with them.
With any circuit you should be concerned with oscillation. The 6172s are more prone to problems than the 2134s. Board layout is a factor.
Given Jens' board design experience and day job, I suspect that 6172s will be fine. However, the only way to know for sure is to build up a set.
You should have no problems using OPA2134s for all positions. Some people like the bottom end of the NE5532 better than the 2134, and build bass sections with them.
Bob, thanks for the quick answers to my somewhat ignorant questions. This kind of stuff is right on the ragged edge of my DIY comfort zone.
John
John
You're welcome John. You could just use OPA2134s and be done with the decisions. Comfortable now? 😉
Re: Re: better ?
JohnL--
I also think you might have missed the joke, somewhat. There was a comment in the "Active Filter GB" thread about using an opamp with a gain-bandwidth product (sometimes referred to as "unity gain frequency") that's 10x the highest frequency in use. This implies a conservative GBWP of ~200kHz (10x above 20kHz audio).
Bob's somewhat tongue-in-cheek comment was that since the OP2134 has a GBWP of 8MHz that it would be useful up to about 800 kiloHertz, so the bats in your attic can enjoy their Hi-Fi, too.
John, don't feel bad about not getting all of this. I have a BSEE and still learn something new almost every time I'm on this board. Welcome to the world of DIY electronics. Here's to always learning something new.
--Greg
BobEllis said:
so with OPA2134s you'll have to be careful to keep the crossover frequency below 800 KHz, although distortion does hit .001% by 20 KHz.
JohnL said:
...should I not use the 2134 for the Mid-Tweet cross (~1500)?
JohnL--
I also think you might have missed the joke, somewhat. There was a comment in the "Active Filter GB" thread about using an opamp with a gain-bandwidth product (sometimes referred to as "unity gain frequency") that's 10x the highest frequency in use. This implies a conservative GBWP of ~200kHz (10x above 20kHz audio).
Bob's somewhat tongue-in-cheek comment was that since the OP2134 has a GBWP of 8MHz that it would be useful up to about 800 kiloHertz, so the bats in your attic can enjoy their Hi-Fi, too.
John, don't feel bad about not getting all of this. I have a BSEE and still learn something new almost every time I'm on this board. Welcome to the world of DIY electronics. Here's to always learning something new.

--Greg
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